Archive for April, 2013

odd group of names involving themselves with aliens

Friday, April 12th, 2013

This is kinda interesting…

Ex Congressmen form panel to investigate UFOs.

The five days of hearings will take evidence from 40 witnesses in Washington and be designed to mimic the format of a Congressional hearing.
The group said that because of the “global implications of the issue” it would livestream proceedings in English, Spanish, Arabic, Hindi, Japanese and Mandarin. “This represents approximately one half of the world’s population.”

Naturally the big name in this group is ex Presidential candidate, first for the Democratic nomination and then for the Libertarian nomination, Mike Gravel.  And he’ll get a few blurbs out there.

Described by one historian as “a loose cannon” during his 12-year Senate career, even in retirement the former Alaska lawmaker courts controversy, whether defending Wikileaks cause celebre Bradley Manning, attacking the official version of 9/11 or, earlier this year, attending the International Conference on Hollywoodism in Iran. “Playing it safe,” he says from his home outside San Francisco, “is no fun.”
So it should come as no surprise that, when UFO-transparency lobbyist Steve Bassett invited him to serve on his Citizen Hearing on Disclosure panel later this month, Gravel — who ran for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2007 — decided the money was worth his time to wander off the grid again. Even though Gravel says he knows little about the UFO issue.

But look at the other names here.

Darlene Hooley (D-OR), Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-MI), Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), Merrill Cook (R-UT), and former Senator Mike Gravel (D-AK) comprise the panel.

I don’t want to hash too much on this somewhat eccentric activity by these figures, but it does strike me that it takes a bit of an “I don’t care” eccentricity, shown surely somewhere in their past career, to plunge into this activity.  Stumping into Merrill Cook’s wikipedia page shows this …

In 1998, Cook was accused of instances of erratic behavior. He was briefly banned from state Republican headquarters after an obscenity-laced tirade, his reaction to being told his name had been eliminated from a GOP get-out-the-vote effort to which Cook’s campaign had contributed $25,000. He, nevertheless, won by 10 percentage points. He demoted his chief of staff Janet Jenson a few days after the election; in an email, Jenson told her colleagues, “Merrill has taken up permanent residence in whacko land. If he asks you to fax his underwear to the speaker’s office, please just do it

Lynn Woolsey we see not afraid to be arrested for protesting.    Kilpatrick’s family became pretty controversial (her son is a disgraced mayor of Detroit).  And then there’s…

Darlene Hooley, huh?

Well, Stephen Colbert did find reason to ask her, when she started giggling, “Are you high right now?”  Otherwise, she seemed a pretty straigh-laced congress critter.  Odd choice of issues.

tying three or so things together into a messy box

Thursday, April 11th, 2013

Hm.  Here’s my irregular Doc Hastings update…

… Just your random Republican representative, really.

The Headline:  Doc Hastings disputes San Juans, other National Monuments.

Question from the peanut gallery.  I fail to see the connection between his comments on the national monument in Delaware and the one in the San Juan Islands. Perhaps the author can explain this to help my critical thinking skills?

The comment that explains the reasoning is here… it is Because

Here is the connection as I see it. Hastings is saying that if the Park Service doesn’t have the resources to keep White House tours going, then it doesn’t have resources for new National Monuments (using the one in Delaware as an example (while taking the opportunity to take some pot shots at the Delaware site)). The next paragraph claims that Hastings’ comment was bogus because the new National Monuments will not administered by the Park Service (using the San Juans arrangement as an example).

It’s that thing where you need to keep the federal government away from killing wild horses.  And the like.

At least with this case he has a sympathetic oyster farmer to protect.

In other commentary from the world of ineffectual blog comment bloviation… :

BO should make a Doc Hastings Monument to Ossified Stupidity

Why have so many Republicans become angry reactionaries?

Doc Hastings is an absolute idiot. He ran on ‘term-limits’, yet is in his 5th or 6th term. Votes pug party line every time-doesn’t know the meaning of critical thinking and negotiation.

Yeah, well, if you live in his district you can vent your frustration by voting in the 40 percent who will be casting their lot with the opponent.

In other Hastings news… we get the usual sequesterian line, blame for all cuts anywhere will be placed on Obama because some spending remains for some other things they have always had their eyes on gutting.

Now move along and pick out some other random congress critter in the majority party to guage the current lines and activities of.  Because eventually you kind of get tired of poking at the more showy Michele Bachmanns and Steve Stockmans of the Congressional body.

thatch natch

Monday, April 8th, 2013

I heard at the time of Ronald Reagan’s passing, that the difference between the United States and Great Britain would be seen at the time of Magaret Thatcher’s passing — that while in America, everyone was respectful and reverential to the former president at his passing, Great Britain would see a decent amount of the Dancing on her Grave.  Oh, not by the Respectables and the politicos (might there be a back-bencher here or somewhere?), but enough by the rabble to be noted.

We’ll see.  Other than something like a blast from old Sex Pistols members, I kind of doubt I’ll see anything… er… amusing.  Can we get a “What the hell was the point of that Falklands War” at least?
Oh well.  There’s always noxious Internet comments that will certainly be weeded apart and collected by some movement conservative site, and tagged as Communists.

In America, the political eulogies (into the twittersphere!) strike me a tad toward the ” — together with Reagan” land, for a number of the Republicans.  And it seems every Republican feels they have to chime in on this.  The most cringe-worthy comes in with “No chance of Heaven going wobbly now” — from some GOP politico I don’t think I’ve heard from.  Because, you know… she’ll bring God to heel.

The one question I have is… what say you, Sarah Palin?  Because — well, there was a famous snub, Thatcher rejecting any meeting with Palin — not wanting to pass a supposed torch of principles.

and the curious history of Christopher Earl Strunk, one time Larouche Member, now Prominent Birther

Sunday, April 7th, 2013

ITEM NUMBER ONE:  This is just pathetic.  From the lpac website:  . witness the claim that “people from different corners of the globe” turning to larouche for Glass Steagall, followed by a link to something called “The “Support Group for the 11 Plural Left Deputies” blogspot.  Well, enjoy this blog, I guess.  (http://oncediputados.blogspot.com/) . LPAC is reduced to making news items about blogs that link to them.  It’s sort of like their citations of the magical and mythical White House insider “Ulsterman”.
I’d have to click on the link to see if it mentions the usual “People’s Voice” link.  And I just don’t feel like doing that.

ITEM NUMBER TWO:  Another Alex Jones appearance.  Interesting thing about Alex Jones.  You get the feeling Jeffrey Steinberg is now ghost-writing for them.  So, you know, this statement becomes pretty funny.
That’s not pushing the window to the right, (6+ / 0-) that’s Lyndon Larouche stuff.  Just plain manic.
As I pointed out in the comments section to my last “larouche challenge” post, Billy Corgan had an apperance that was noted, salon taking the trouble to note his wobbly political trajectory including a now deleted larouche posting on his website.  We also see that Alex Jones has brought on “legendary guitarist and devoted NRA supporter Ted Nugent”  to discuss Jim Carrey, who has the cardinal sin of “desecrating American hero Charlton Heston’s memory”.  (As too being a “firearm phobe”.)  Weirdly enough, Ted Nugent fails that “beyond the left/right dichotomy” — where was he in the Bush Administration and what would he say of Jones’s opposition to “The War on Terror” and people calling Bush nazis?  Whatever — the fight to save their guns and defend the Honor of Charleton Heston bridges over these past political differences.

Here’s the appearance.  Here’s who, looking over the Internet, bothered to care.  “Laverne is Gold” blogspot.  “Aus Bullion” blogspot.  “Refounding Fathers” wordpress.  “Nesara News” Blogspot.  Rumormill news… which gets us this suggestion of ye olde psy ops:
Who knows what’s really going on, and what’s cynical PSY-OP for profit-related gameplan.
World Crisis Watch, which brings us this discussion:
Why do people like Celente, Jones, and LaRouche keep babbling about people “waking up”? The only people who are awake, have always been awake, and they are that 10%.
LaRouche Seems to be side stepping every question.
Lydon is a dumbarze…he always was, and he has lost it in the last few years. anyone who gives this loser any attention must be brain death.
Mike Philbin’s blogspot.
This.
And the Socieohistory WordPress follows up the Alex Jones appearance with a biblical end times citation or two.  Just because that’s the way they roll!

In other people who cares, this is interesting, for the Obama Ballot Challenge:
This is a National LaRouchePAC Conference Call:  One call across the entire United States.
I’m in regular contact with Gerald P. in SoCal, Gene.

ITEM NUMBER THREE:  Everyone knows about the Larouche Movement Alumnus Webster Tarpley and his work with the 9/11 Truth Movement.
Har de har har to this:  I’m a Quasi-LaRouchie Webster Tarpley type dirigiste…
But now there appears to be a prominent Larouche Movement Alumnus in the Birther Movement.  An Orly Taitz ally, who… made the news.

Brooklyn Judge Slams Birther Case, orders Theorist to pay 177 Grand.  See too Huffington Post.  And the words for the day are “fanciful, delusional and irrational”.

The big question for this Larouche Alumnus:  Who would have thought that the same Roman Catholic church that was running around suing Obama over birth control and telling parishioners he is a abortionist murderer would also be conspiring to get him elected?  It is what you get when you tie things down to a Vatican Conspiracy.

The comments section from the birthers get … trippy as hell.  Understand, in the grand scheme of political theory crap, I have a lot more sympathy toward your “9/11 Truther” than your Birther — the former at least allows for touching on the dark and shady goings on of different bureaucratic structures, the latter is just personal animus against a single political figure —

Now we take a look at his testimony.  And HOW!

MR. STRUNK: . . . In fact, it turns out in the discovery of the connection to the Jesuits it was so compelling that when I started really digging into the background of this scheme of defraud, putting up two Manchurian candidates at once, which would take advantage of New York State’s weakness in our law which required honesty. We require to have honesty and didn’t get it.
THE COURT: Your case is more The Da Vinci Code.
MR. STRUNK: The Da Vinci Code is a phoney book.
THE COURT: With all due respect to John Frankenheimer, The Manchurian Candidate according to you and the school of the Vatican, by that way it describes the gist of your argument.
MR. STRUNK: Frankenheimer?
THE COURT: He directed the original Manchurian Candidate movie. . ,
MR. STRUNK: The old?
THE COURT: With Frank, not Denzel.
MR. STRUNK: Frankenheimer?
THE COURT: 1962 movie.
MR. STRUNK: I was aware of the movie at that point, but – –

Just like his time mentor Lyndon Larouche was fond of cribbing shit from Mission Impossible.

And we now make fun of him.  And read and watch his fight for the Republican nomination to the New York Senate for the 18th SD.
And here is your Larouche reference catch:
Strunk is the first known state candidate in the entire country running on an anti-Vatican/Jesuit ticket. “I first became aware of the enormous power wielded in New York state and the country during the 1980’s when I was involved in numerous domestic law disputes,” said Strunk.”After researching the law, I came to the conclusion we are living under Roman Canon Law, which sparked my interest to research the Jesuits.”

Well, one thing leads to another.  Interesting thing, too… “Vatican Assassins” — that was one of those inside jokes passed about between Charlie Sheen and Alex Jones!  And so it is har de har har.  LaRouchies have done much research/writing on Jesuits as involved in many levels of influence ie both extreme right & left.  Indeed.

This becomes funnier:  it’s an Orly Taitz birther known for quoting Larouche.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR:  Cronics Movement Critic of the Larouche Cryonics Movement makes some statements worth passing on:

But then I’m able to do this because my mind works better than yours and I can focus on what’s important and feasible instead of obsessing about Jews, ice ages, Lyndon LaRouche’s crackpot beliefs and so forth.

BURN!

ITEM NUMBER FIVE:  THE PO TOUR CONTINUES APACE.

Dateline  Boston Seeking the Gun nut support.
The LaRouche douchebags did show up. They were walking up to the stairs before the statehouse as everyone was gathering in front of the statehouse.
You should read about Lyndon LaRouche. Guy is extreme left/right at the same time. Absolutely bananas.

Dateline Middleton and laater New Orleans
And while much of what Jim told me was conspiratorial, Jim and Tommy didn’t buy into the 9/11 Truth Movement. “We think it was an inside job,” Jim said, “But we don’t think it was a planned demolition.”
“What else do you guys do besides this?” I asked. “We do this full time,” Jim said, “We’re like missionaries.”
“So, you like Biden then?” I asked, hinting at the question of who’d be in charge if Obama were out. “We have channels to him,” said Jim. He was unwilling to disclose who those channels were, but he implied that there were people on Capital Hill with connections to Biden that could convince him to do what the LaRouchies wanted.
Regulation, universal Medicare, these are just some of the things Jim and Tommy support. What are they against? Global warming. “It’s a hoax,” Jim explained, “Perpetrated by the banks in order to de-industrialize. They also want to lower the population.” I asked why. “Because they want to go back to a feudal society.” I asked who was doing it and was told it’s a conglomerate of bankers—an Anglo-Dutch coalition. “The new British empire,” Jim said.
“Don’t they already have lots of money?” I asked.
“It’s not about money,” Jim said, “It’s about power.” I wasn’t going to mention the fact that wealth is a form of power because all my questions seemed to be getting on Jim’s nerves. So, I decided to ask one last thing: “Does this have anything to do with the Buildabears?”

I only catch snippets; from what I can tell–and I can tell very little because these videos are seemingly impossible to follow for the uninitiated–it’s got something to do with Beethoven. I hadn’t gotten around to hearing LaRouche speak in any form up until then and I’d hoped, although without success, that he’d sound like David Lynch–like a slightly effeminate southerner. Instead, LaRouche has the voice of an older fellow one would never suspect of having countless adherents. He does, however, seem to have a saliva build-up situation and pauses every few sentences to swallow, lick his lips like he’s trying to get away with something, and resume his endless talking.
I wonder to myself how people who were brought in by Obama with a Hitler mustache react to lines like: “Mendeleev’s periodic table of elements simple won’t do for the colonization of Mars!” and “What we need is a table of cosmic radiation!” And, yes, such sentences are punctuated by exclamation points because, holy shit!, did you hear what she said about the periodic table of elements?! They all seem pretty into it. I, on the other hand, get up to leave after the fourth iteration of the phrase, “cosmic radiation.”

Who knows? You predicting the marketplace meltdown is who should know! This runs up against the question of, “What do religious folks who believe the Rapture’s coming on Tuesday night do Wednesday morning?” Well, they probably say they messed up and that it’s coming the Wednesday after next. And when that day comes and go, they do it all over again. Just like the Marxist does every time the revolution doesn’t come, like the Kucinich supporter does every time the votes don’t add up in their favor; they just hop in that boat and hope the lava doesn’t hop in a boat of its own.

Dateline ???  
I went to the post office today, and there were a couple of wackjobs with  their asses parked out in front with big “Impeach Obama” signs and some silly petition they were hoping to get me to sign.  They even had a picture of Obama with a Hitler-style mustache.  I told them that Obama  was a hell of a lot better President than Bush.  The girl says “Are you sure about that?”   
Turns out they were affiliated with Lyndon LaRouche’s silly shit.  You remember LaRouche, don’t you?  He was sentenced to 15 years’ imprisonment in 1988 for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and tax code violations.
“Oh, yeah… I’m sure.  Not a doubt in my mind.”
A pretty good logical fallacy with this story … but let it pass.

Tips on the Big Cherry Blossom Festival
6. Don’t give Lyndon LaRouche solicitors any money. When they ask, reply “has Lyndon gotten out of jail yet?” They will cuss you and you should call them scammers.
6. As hard as it may be to not give them all of my money and swear undying allegiance to LaRouche I will attempt to resist.

Dateline Fort Walton Beach
“Lyndon LaRouche and LaRouche PAC are what stand between you and an otherwise inevitable collapse of civilization,”the PAC’s website states.[…]
Amazingly, he’s been cleared to do media interviews.
“We’re attacking Obama and the controllers of Obama out of London,” Vullo said in a telephone interview. […]
“What we’re expecting under Obama and the British Empire is (for them) to impose a world dictatorship for depopulation,” she said.

Is the empire referred to in this article the same one that’s in Star Wars?
Good grief – if that guy can make the news than I should break out my polkadot mankini, lawn chair, card table, and signs demanding the return of Battlestar Galactica – I’d make the front page.

Dateline Shelbyville
Bill Roberts, huh?
I follwed this guy for awhile but determined he was a shrill.
AND comedy gold.

Curious Citizenship Question
The thing is that a few months ago I was solicited by a Larouche PAC member in front of a DMV office. I didn’t want to seem rude and I couldn’t just walk away, so I gave him $20 as a donation and left my information (Its’ always been hard for me to say “NO”). In a couple of months they started calling me, saying that I’d signed up for their MEMBERSHIP and trying to invite me to their meetings. I refused every time, because I don’t want to deal with them, I’m not interested in what they are doing and after looking up information about them online, I understood that I disagree with what their ideology.
But they probably still have me listed as a member somewhere in their database.

Dateline Boston.
The LaRouchies occasionally set up a table on the sidewalk in Harvard Square and hand out their promotional material to confused tourists and uninterested locals. I think that if Orly Taitz didn’t have the money to continue filing frivolous lawsuits, that’s how she’s be doing most of her birfing–handing out her crazy zibits by accosting people in high-pedestrian areas.
Just like she did on inauguration day when she hung out at Union Station because she couldn’t get anywhere near the Capitol.
I was physically menaced by one of those LaRouchies outside my bank one day. They set up on the sidewalk right between the bank and the parking lot, where everyone entering has to go by them. They had their posters of Obama as Joker prominently displayed. I must have grimaced as I walked by because one of them said “You should hate Obama. He’s going to kill us all someday.”
I replied that I didn’t hate My President but I did hate the syphallitic LaRouche and his brain dead zombie followers. His face changed in an instant and he came after me, shouting “Shut up c**t, you don’t know shit!”
The people on the sidewalk, most of them just walking by, were aghast. One came into the bank with me to report it. The bank said they ask the police to remove them every time they show up but its a public sidewalk and I guess the LaRouchies know the drill. When I told him one tried to attack me, the manager said he’d call the cops again if I wanted, but I didn’t want. I don’t understand how a bank can’t keep miscreants off the premises.
They also disrupted the state Dem convention I attended one year by marching through the auditorium, singing, while the major speeches were going on.
My response to his first comment would have been, hopefully he’ll start with you.
But yours was good, too

ITEM NUMBER SIX:  Spanning the globe.

In reference to a Hoover — Obama connection: No wonder the LaRouchie’s love Kevin Baker (3+ / 0-)
Michael Billington on Press TV and Thermonuclear War due to that always background noise of North Korean belligerence.
And it gets this response:  Mike Billington again… (eyeroll emoticon)  BURN!
 Comparing Larochies on Press TV with LeMay.
Marijuana debate brings us to this seemingly inevitable.
A Game of Connecto that leaves me dizzy.
“Breaking” yet again. Mr. Larouche spoke of the “Impeachment” of Obama a few weeks ago! I’m sorry, until I see that DEMON taken out in cuffs, I’m NOT HOLDING MY BREATH!
Nor am I.
Most of these articles are of dreamers, and ‘guessers’ with a hundred opinions. […] I must have wasted many, many, hours listening to their theories..they parade as ‘insider knowledge’

Apparently LPAC interviewed Sam Varknin.  A quick look at his wikipedia page.  I don’t like the smug look of his profile picture — clearly identifies himself as a Malignant Self-Loving Narcissist.

Poetry.
It’s not just extremists on the right who are acolytes of Beck or Rand who I write off; the same is true for folks on the left like LaRouchies.

INTERNATIONAL ANSWER COALITION.  Just another of those “ugh” groups.
ANSWER has a way of fucking up a good anti war protest with their batshit crazy theories.
Do you think they’re associated with the LaRouchies? They are total batshit.
I really couldn’t say.
Degrees of seperation, I suppose.

from being against the second amendment, nothing the prevents him from being a leftist, socialist, communist, or even a Larouche Democrat.

Bill Jones on Press TV.
On March 20, 2013 an interview with Lyndon LaRouche was broadcast on Russia Today’s Spanish-language TV, on Daniel Estulin’s weekly show, “From the Shadows.”.
You have no idea the can of worms you would be opening up by asking me about LaRouche and his cult.

And/Or
You have no idea the can of worms you would be opening up by asking me about the Roman Empire,
AKA The Holy Roman Empire.

Abdullah al-Amin, Gerald L. K. Smith, George Lincoln Rockwell, Augusto Pinochet, Leopoldo Galtieri, Louis Farrakhan, Lyndon LaRouche.
I admit it, I was trying to get a rise out of you. I mean, it showed up first in a LyndonLaRouche thing – who could take it seriously?
How does the Anthropic Principle change the meaning of the universe? Not the best example, but LaRouchies are obsessed with the noosphere and it’s implications re: 2nd law of thermodynamics:
(No time to look for a good example, the “basement team” produces a lot of gobbledegook, but some of it is worth a look, just “marking” this thread by posting will try to put a goodie in later….
Throw-back lyndon larouchie cultists! I thought that guy had finally died, or been put in the asylum, but apparently he still has “followers”, yes like un-dead shamblers following mindlessly behind.
* “Highly Recommended* one of Sean’s best interviews“.  Can any Harley Schlanger interview be so?
This never fails to get smiles, nods, laughs and thumbs-up, sometimes from theLaRouchies themselves. Observer. Oh, man, this one’s torture. It’s like voting for whether the light or dark side of the Force is more powerful.
You are in way over your head LaRouchie.
Press TV appearance by Bill Jones.
And then, when she was 82 years old (and here is a story for another piece perhaps), she got involved in the Lyndon LaRouche cult, gave away every last cent.
OOOH… BURN!  Incidently, posting links to a Larouche Pac site isn’t exactly conveying credibility here. Where do you get the best price on tinfoil… Costco ?
way to keep the crazy train rolling craig.  maybe you could reiterate your positive opinions of the john birch society and the liberty lobby, the larouche network,the pioneer fund, and former senator mccarthey.  kick it up a gear

ITEM NUMBER SIX:    HISTORICAL NOTE:  The Great Pitch Battle Debate.   – Pitch battles.
Also a blast from the Past for continued policy knocking purposes:  Another health expert noted that celebrated extremist Lyndon LaRouche tried unsuccessfully to pass an AIDS quarantine in California in 1986.

And a Bleh.  Nuclear Power Fight with interesting figures poking in.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN:  What happens after the Occupation starts collection dust.

Into Occupy Wall Street

Okay, it was actually Iceland first.
Moot point. But Larouche never gets my blood up anyways.
Not the best reference source out there.
Why do you think he is not a good reference source?
In Australia, John Pilger, and Lyndon LaRouche have about as much credibility as a cayman at a pool party.
Nobody in political circles believes a word they say.
Do you trust people in political circles these days? Aren’t they the ones who have gotten us into the problem situation that we are in?
And do you believe something just because other people believe it?
I used to think David Icke was okay too, until he he went too far with his concepts. When people start leaning to the left, and gain recognition, it seems they are more than willing to keep leaning further left, to gain more recognition.
Larouche is a conservative democrat. He believes in implementing the same policies as past presidents such as Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy. That’s not what I would call far left or far out by any means.
He wants, first Glass Steagall, than, a kind of New Deal, based on bringing water from Alaska to turn barren deserts in the US into agricultural land.
The former, I fully agree with.
The water thing from Alaska, I’m not so sure. It takes a lot more than water to bring desert soil to a condition ready for agriculture. And our experience with irrigating in desert regions in Australia is that it increases soil salinity, and ends up causing more problems than you had initially. Nature can’t be fooled that easy, is what I’m saying.
I see, I didn’t know about that. That particular project was the idea of the Army Corp of Engineers, under Kennedy. I think they probably would have taken that into consideration. I’ll ask one of my contacts at the Larouche organization to see what he says.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT:  What’s up with the Diane Sare Campaign?

From the Diane Sare Campaign:
Despite all odds and in opposition to all of his commanders, General Douglas MacArthur engineered the successful landing at Inchon, preventing a global conflagration into nuclear war. It’s time Americans learned the lesson of Douglas MacArthur and his famous landing at Inchon, and realize that the implications of NOT reinstating FDR’s original Glass-Steagall Act today are global chaos and thermonuclear war.

Now let’s take a moment of silence to memorialize the 10th year anniversary of the tragic death of Jeremiah Duggan.

Leno, Letterman. What’s the difference?

Saturday, April 6th, 2013

Reading this story headlined “David Letterman, Jay Leno Exchange Barbs.”

Interesting.  They appear to exchange the same barbs.

Barb number one, from David Letterman:  I got a call from my mom today, (and) she says, ‘Well, David, I see you didn’t get the ‘Tonight Show’ again.
Barb number one, from Jay Leno.  Folks, I got to be honest with you, I had a really awkward day today,” he told viewers. “I had to call David Letterman and tell him he didn’t get the Tonight Show again. Awful! Terrible!
Barb number two, from David Letterman:  I happen to know Jay’s got another job on network that has greater viewership, higher ratings – Univision. He’s going there.
Barb number two, from Jay Leno.  We’ve all fought, kicked and scratched to get this network up to fifth place, now we have to keep it there! Jimmy, don’t let it slip into sixth! We are counting on you.

This is your “perfunctory” Letterman monologue your “polished for consumption” Leno monologue.

And, generational ergots, we do ponder… when Letterman will leave alongside Leno, completing a turn-over.  It does seem likely CBS is about to be “in first place” in the late night ratings all of a sudden — and then it’ll thud when Letterman hangs it up.  And it also seems like Letterman is shading into the spot of unhipness Johnny Carson was in before he announced retirement and suddenly became hip again.  And it does strike me that it’s a little difficult to explain to the young ‘uns that there was a time Letterman was something.  But you can go on the list on such a thing.  The Simpsons, for instance, but at least that you have reruns on the teevee — Letterman you’d have to jump to youtube clips.

Again… what is this format anyway these days and the next days?  We’ll see, won’t we?

toward a better polling analysis

Friday, April 5th, 2013

Your polls of stupid things believed by people.

There is a lot of money going into the “Global Warming Hoax” claim, so from a marketing point of view that one is a little like pointing out that people know the visual landscape of the logos for big corporations and don’t really know the visual landscape of types of trees around them.

13% of voters think Barack Obama is the anti-Christ, including 22% of Romney voters.
There is a way in which some conspiracy theory “agree” pollings are just assertations of vehemint oppostion.  This also goes to to the percentage of Democrats who were polled with 9/11 Conspiracy theories — and I will also note there was always a bit of wiggle room within some questions.   [What does it mean “the US government allowed 9/11 to happen“… which, is true to some extent by definition.] But I think nothing might be moreso than asking if you think the President is the anti-Christ.  I have no way of digging into these 13 percents and 22 percent figures.  The more interesting number would be the percentage of Obama voters who think Obama is the anti-Christ.

A bemused comment to one poll:
“15% of voters say the government or the media adds mind-controlling technology to TV broadcast signals (the so-called Tinfoil Hat crowd)”
This technology is commonly known as “commercials”.

And two figures to poke at.
Just 5% of voters believe that Paul McCartney actually died in 1966
4% of voters say they believe “lizard people” control our societies by gaining political power.

The “Paul McCartney died” poll doesn’t really have any repercussions in terms of politics — that I know of.  (Also a yes answer might be a method to shout “Woot” to the Beatles, so I don’t know if this poll means anything.)  But the 4 percent of voters casting their lot for Lizard People — this being the “David Icke” crowd.  A thing about this figure.  If you believe Lizard People control our societies — what’s the point of voting?  The more interesting polling date might be to see what percentage of people who believe Lizard People control our society …  vote.

Here’s some more data points, which an Allison Morris requested I share here.

Question number one… “Who is President Obama’s nominee for Secretary of State”.  A basic problem with this multiple choice poll… if I were to do it, I would throw in Chuck Hagel for the simple reason that he had been selected as Secretary of Defense, and I believe that the two stories would cross-current and lower the “correctly identify as Kerry” number a tad.
Also why does that John Kerry look like Michael Dukakis in the tank?

No, I’m not terribly surprised people don’t know Elizabeth Warren.  I would not be able to identify Syria on the map in a blind test I’m afraid, but I’d likely get this test answer right.   I may add that if you threw me these infographics instead of a photo, I wouldn’t blame anyone for not getting the names right.  (See Kerry too… and Boehner is not sufficiently orange in complexion.)
Did the test-makers just toss in Texas on the Same Sex Marriage questionaire to get a “stupid” percentage, and why didn’t it include for the “circuit crossing” effect a state like, say, Massachusetts?

My biggest take away from this is the Lizard People question, by the way.  No, really… I want to know what percentage of Lizard People people vote, and what the Lizard People voters base their voting choices on.  (It’s a bit like the “two party duoploy”, but without the suggestion of a lesser of two evils.)