Dragging through the muck

ITEM NUMBER ONE:   ALEX JONES, LYNDON LAROUCHE, and WEBSTER TARPLEY FISTICUFFS

I’ve been wondering when Larouche would join the Alex Jones Show again.  The answer may possibly be… Never.  (slight update: then again… maybe next week or in a week or two. — heh this:  Apparently there are two knuckleheads who think Lyndon LaRouche is a “statesman”:Alex Jones and,er,um,Lyndon LaRouche.)

According to factnet poster fightapathy:
Judy in Florida. Calling Judy in Florida.”
A certain LPAC supporter by the name of Judy in Florida spoke on Alex Jones Show the other day on the topic of staving off total disaster, asking “What about the prospect of what they’re trying to put through congress, the LaRouche Political Action Committee’s work to pass Glass-Steagal–“
Jones cut off Judy saying “Great idea, but it ain’t gonna happen. Ain’t gonna happen. Cause the criminals are running the show.”
Judy was persistent, though. “There is work to have it put through, there absolutely is–“
Jones cut her off again saying, “I know! I know there are groups working on it but the criminal cartels won’t let it through.”
That was the end of Judy in Florida’s promotion of LPAC and Glass-Steagal.
So much for Alex Jones carrying THE DEAR LEADER’s water. I guess that only happens when the great man is a guest on the show.

A bit more interesting than Jones acting in the “cut the phone” — the funniest example of this cut-off remains (god help us) Mark Levin and “go back to your circle whatever” — is the anti Larouche crusade of Webster Tarpley.

Only an hour after wrapping up listening to JUDY IN FLORIDA’s promotion of THE DEAR LEADER being unceremoniously cut off by Alex Jones — twice yet — we now have Dr. Webster Griffin Tarpley getting in a barb via his weekly Dooms Day programme “World Crisis Radio”, March 9th edition:  “There is a growing anti-CIA mood on capitol hill. Now don’t expect certain Brand X websites reporting on this anti-CIA mood, right? You know, don’t expect LaRouche PAC to tell you about this mood.”
Dr. Tarpley has been reporting for some time that THE DEAR LEADER is a CIA operative, in the pay of Langley, with all the EIR offices packed with CIA spooks.
Toward the end of Tarpley’s broadcast in discussion of Pepe Grillo’s electoral triumph in Italy, ANOTHER reference to Lyn emerges! The good Doctor says,
“And we also notice LaRouche is flirting with Grillo. Its very interesting that LaRouche’s Italian website long referred to Grillo, the Grillini, as zombies, the atrophy or degrowth, but that is all being overwritten in the interest of the CIA.”
Is this a case of deliberately sabotaging the LaRouche brand (BRAND X?), or just connecto by the dear Doctor regarding Lyn’s failure to discuss certain issues?
I’d say, Lyn’s failure to discuss CIA and other issues is because he is not interested in them. He is more fascinated with cone-shaped extinctions and reliving the assassination of JFK over and over and over. Period.

Actually this strikes me as evidence that Tarpley is in cahoots with Larouche.  The “CIA agent” talk smacks of pumping Larouche up to a level of… relevance.

ITEM NUMBER TWO:  There’s a mass of new crap from the Larouche HQ posted at laroucheplanet, the “Basement Meetings”.  While generally glad such a thing exists and is available for one’s pursual, the effect seems like that of wading through videos of Country Council meetings for “tidbits”.  If I had wanted to spend time listening to Larouchian meetings, I’d just join their cult, right?
I am glad someone is wading through some of it.  Here’s the best we can do so far, as per “fightapathy“…  Interesting is the occasional reference to “Sky” as though Lyn had forgotten his favorite had just defected. […]  The revealing part of this meeting is the part where Lyn sternly advises the candidates not to make general statements to an audience but focus on “Winning over only one or two people who are willing to carry the concepts you’re talking about. The rest are too stupid or distracted to take away anything of what you’ve just talked about.”  Plato’s bunch of “Golden Souls”, and all that I guess.

ITEM NUMBER THREE:  CONTINUING COVERAGE ON THE DIANE SARE FOR GOVERNOR CAMPAIGN
Diane Sare is campaigning at a Princeton Physics Lab.  You don’t see Chris Christie there.  Do you?

ITEM NUMBER FOUR:  POST OFFICE TOUR NOTES.

Dateline Boston:
It’s a really rainy, raw, windy day in Boston. I’m walking up into Downtown Crossing to have lunch. There, I see a table with an “Impeach Obama” sign on it. Keeping the table were 5 young men. […] I wanted to know what these young men had to say to back up their want of impeachment. So, I asked. I was directed to a big sign under the umbrella with about 9 different statements. The first statement was that Obama supports and defends Al Qaeda. I stopped right there and asked how/where did they find this “fact” and in what way(s) does the president support Al Qaeda. One of the young men asked me, “You don’t know?” I said, “No! Please tell me. How is he supporting Al Queda?” None of them could answer my question. They kept throwing the “you don’t know?” back at me. Then, one of them came up to me kind of laughing and said, “We don’t have to talk about this to you.” Nice, huh? So, I told them that they needed to do some research (and research is NOT opinion pieces in the news) and that they were idiots if they couldn’t back up what they’re asking people to support.
I used to sing to them: “LaRouche, La Rouche, LaRouche is on fire… we don’t got no waterlet the MF burn…They didn’t get it.
How LaRouche tabling brought down a President”–Said no one EVER
Ah, Lyndon LaRoucheStarted in the 1950s…guess who gave Lyndon his start? Koch family money.  (this is a new meme I’m starting to see.)
I had an encounter with one of his followers a number of years ago and posted about it in my journal on the old DU2.  http://journals.democraticunderground.com/drm604/7
I always say “Gold isn’t coming back” in a loud voice.  That usually gets them.
Just the act of walking past as I did at my Post Office a few days before the presidential election, got a hostile response. They glared at me the whole time for not stopping to talk, though I was trying to avoid eye contact and get about my business.
I’ve only encountered them in person outside the post office, but their websites are completely dodgy and insane. They seem to occupy the same slice of violent and weird that Scientologists do.
And there’s this:   They tried to take over at a precinct meeting where Kucinich was talking to my local Democrats.  They’d littered the literature tables with material. The regulars were speechless. Dennis skillfully, but firmly, shut them down when they started their ‘Impeach Obama’ spiel during the Q&A.  I know some who have had problems with these cult members in their community, because that’s how they behave. They are an international group and are on community access stations with their weekly broadcasts. I don’t know how they are supported financially to go out and do these things, but they remind me of the WBC group in vitriol if provoked – which is not hard to do.
SAVE THE POST OFFICE.  POINT:  then there wouldn’t be any place for the LaRouchies to protest President Obama which would deprive me of excellent entertainment.
COUNTERPOINT:  Let me know when you head out this way. It would be nice to see another DUer, but be careful around the post office since that is where the Larouchies hang out.

Dateline Winchester
Winchester speaks! Do you remember when the KKK came to town??

Dateline Fernandina Beach
Political paraphernalia is available for those who are interested.  No, the timing of their arrival is not related to the  Amelia Island Concours D’Elegance, but they are delighted they came during a high traffic period.  And finally, they are very pleased with the warm welcome they have received in Fernandina Beach.
Thanks for checking this. I was worried that they were a local group and I would have to organize a counter demonstration. I didn’t want to do that because I am seriously afraid of these crazies.

Dateline Cecil.  (Interestingly published in the “Cecil WHIG”.  Should align with the supposed “Whig” affinities of the movement, right?)
Two days after a pro-Second Amendment rally (a bit of relevance in terms of finding the lines of political demagoguery — go where the Hitler images are ) brought an estimated 400 people to the sidewalk on East Main Street in Rising Sun, a quieter protest was held over a card table on the sidewalk in front of the U.S. Post Office.
Gerry Belsky and Chris Schmid from the LaRouche Political Action Committee were inviting people to stop at their table and sign a petition to impeach President Barack Obama.
“There are people up here who I understand are very upset about Obama,” Belsky said.
Kathie Brumfield was one of them.
“I’m for anything that gets him out. He’s just a dictator,” she said as she signed the petition.
Belsky went so far as to call Obama “a megalomaniac and a narcissist.” […]
Along with the petition, Belsky was encouraging people to support the restoration of the Glass-Steagall Act, which he said would rescue the American economy and create jobs.
Belsky said efforts also have to be made to protect the space program, especially its defense projects. LaRouche, he noted, was President Ronald Reagan’s “go-to guy for the Star Wars Defense System.”
Brumfield, who recently retired, had additional concerns.
“Have you ever known any president to have constant parties?” she said. “And what he’s done to Medicare is a damn shame.”
“I worry about what he’s doing for the military,” Collins said, adding he worries that more trouble is ahead.
“(Obama) will be out of office by the time all this has taken place. Then they get (Hilary) Clinton and it’ll go from bad to worse,” Collins said.

I don’t think the sliver of “concerns” with this guy and the Larouchies in the Vinn Diagram is all that big.

Straight Dope  Dateline Kirkland.
And not that one correlates with the other, but then of course less than a mile away camped outside of Costco was a “impeach Nobama” table with posters of Obama sporting a hitler stache. Kirkland is a class act I tells ya.
If it makes you feel any better, the people with the Obama-Hitler-‘stashe poster were probably Larouchies, and everyone whose opinion matters stopped paying attention to them decades ago.

Dateline Germatown.  Who Are Those Weird People in Front of the Post Office?
I first noticed these folks last winter, while driving down Pilgrim. Curiosity got the best of me and I pulled over. The fellow manning the display soon identified himself as an adherent of the political philosophy of Lyndon LaRouche. I had heard of LaRouche before, a perennial Presidential candidate known for his wack-a-doo ideas. I knew that I wasn’t dealing with a rational person. […]
The LaRouche website is full of pseudoscientific technobabble. They state the Second Law of Thermodynamics to be false. They claim to have developed a new physics of cosmology and a new theory of evolution. Oh, if only the scientific community could see the error of its ways! […]
The funniest thing about the appearance of the LaRouche organization in Germantown is that many local Tea Party/Republicans, seeing the Impeach Obama signs think-”Hey, that’s our folks!” Frequently, people signal the LaRouchies with a thumbs-up or a honk, or even stop by to encourage these nuts. Little do they know of the organization’s Marxist and Fascist underpinnings. Little do they know of the conspiracy theories and the other kooky views of the bizarre LaRouche cult.
From the Comment:. From someone who has worked in media for years im always shocked when i read something written to mislead and twist reality.

Dateline Lodki:

Only a few feet from Van Der Schaaf, someone had parked a truck with signs challenging the group and its message. The owner of the truck, however, was not present.
“I guess that’s a counter-protest or something,” Van Der Schaaf said.

Dateline Danville:

Dateline Marmora:  With posters of President Obama sporting a Hitler mustache and another calling for the defeat of the British-Saudi empire, two supporters of the LaRouche Political Action Committee drew some attention Outside the Marmora post office on Friday, March 15. […]
“The filibuster broke the Teflon,” he said. “It’s no longer about party. It’s about patriots.”  [Urm.  Nobody’s ever called Obama “The Teflon President”.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE:  MEDIA NOTES
From End Time News “We Are Now living in the Brink of Hell” pronouncement interpreted as “End Times“.
Iran’s Press TV interviews EIR’s Douglas De Groot, and we see its transcription at “Islamic Invitation Turkey dot Com” with the related post
Imperialist Blood-sucker France imposes media blackout on Mali war.  But no Children of Satan.A note for ye old Alt Slack.  Larouche says that he’s a Brittish agent. Glen Beck says that he is a 

useful idiot of the pinko left. Whatever version of Obama gets the 
most votes will be permanently adopted into my beleif system.
Russia TV has this quote from Jeff Steinberg.
More info sent to Robert Theobald of the Marlborough Research Group … on the mailing list.
Current quote found on google’s quote service:  “This is not some dumb guy with a turban some place in the world, trying to get revenge for what’s going on in the Middle East. This is something different.”  (From EIR, which shouldn’t be in google news).  They are peddling conspiracy involved with Was It Murder? Philip Marshall, Author of ‘Big Bamboozle,’ Dead
We got a Sale!    POINT:  Larouche NAILS IT yet again! Obama is a PSYCHOTIC, and those of us with a “Brain Stem” know it! Obama is EVIL to the vary CORE. He isn’t the Anti-Christ, he’s not smart enough, but I would have to agree with those that claim that Obama is a forerunner to the Beast.
COUNTERPOINT:  Obama is not a psychotic, just another “new democrat” ruling elite lackey like Clinton. Its a stupid comparison with Nero, and counterproductive. 
Blast from the Past:   Election 1980, and the Dalay the Hostages-Gate Conspiracy.  ALSO:  Lyndon LaRouche still remembers the day he learned that Roosevelt’s life had ended. He gained a special kind of knowledge. It has been his responsibility to preserve the meaning of Roosevelt’s role in human history.  Never mind he spent the second half of the 1970s dissing on Roosevelt to fund-raise off the  (newest) “New Right”.
THE LATEST IN INSULT LOBBING:
There is no socialist party in the United States. Ok. If you say so. For fun, google American Socialist party, and check out the democrat party connection. Then I think of Lyndon Larouche, a nazi, who was fairly big in the DEMOCRAT party of Illinois. Yeah, good point, comparing republicans to nazis would be kind of lame.
Scientology has Staring Contests… and naturally we get a comparison of cult tactics.  It’s possible that these techniques could encourage someone to speak up, but that’s not the same as communicating effectively. The LaRouche cult helped my husband speak up. He did it arrogantly, often cruelly, and without having listened.

ITEM NUMBER SIX:  Larouchies Call Truce on Calling Rand Paul a Hitler-Obama.  (Or is it an Obama-Hitler)?

2 Responses to “Dragging through the muck”

  1. Justin Says:

    Hm. Doesn’t really delve into “what” for Larouche, does for Cody Wilson:

    On the Tuesday, March 19 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex welcomes back to the show activist and former presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche and crypto-anarchist and law student Cody Wilson who developed and published open source gun designs suitable for 3D printing. Cody will join Alex in-studio.

    At least this means there’s less to listen to or shift through.
    ……………………
    Also worth pointing out:
    http://pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com/2013/03/webster-tarpley-still-not-working-with.html

  2. Justin Says:

    Smashing Pumpkins founder and lead singer Billy Corgan joined Alex Jones once again in studio for a powerful interview. In this excerpt, Corgan analyzes the momentum of the infowar, while hinting at an even greater awakening hindered only by population’s refusal to confront the truth and embrace a shift into a totally new paradigm. No, seriously: ”The momentum of the infowar”.

    So posted on the Ron Paul fan “Daily Paul website”. (Found this interview relevant but no the Larouche interview.)

    Salon takes note, and includes this blast from the past.

    http://www.salon.com/2013/03/25/billy_corgan_hearts_conspiracy_theorist/
    Note this small addition:
    In 2009, Corgan posted a message from Lyndon LaRouche on the Smashing Pumpkins website (the post has since been removed).

    And without looking too far, a funny line in the comments section:
    Did they discuss whether or not the world really is a vampire?

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