What if they threw a Dark Ages and No One Showed Up?
The question for the moment is… Is this anything? And by that I mean, is this anything new? It’s been a long time since I just went ahead and reposted a Larouche Daily Briefing en total, but this is interesting enough.
In previous daily memos, we have seen Larouche do the usual berating of his baby-boomers for doubting. This one is kind of interesting, in that the berating drips in to the hallowed Youth Members. We also see that interesting alteration of the “drop dead” moment (and for precise moments of description, you can rely on this factnet post) of when all governing functions would cease to a “Phase Shift”. It also becomes apparent that perhaps leaving the country happens happens when this  cognitive dissonance is around the bend, so he might “set things straight” upon re-entry. …………………………………………………………..
Oct. 17, 2009 LAROUCHE: OK, first of all, I’m going to chew you out; and you know why. Because some of our idiots, and they tend to run more to the older generation than the younger ones in this case, got the bright idea that I had somehow been mistaken in my forecast of what was going to happen in October. This, as usual, was done; the argument was made on the basis of fraudulent representation of what I had said repeatedly and carefully on that subject during the month of September, and in the first week of October. So, people were trying to insist that I had predicted this general collapse, like a breakdown collapse, and what I was a phase, a critical phase-change which brought us into the threshold of a general collapse. And exactly that has happened.
Now, some of our friends, who we’ve been in a discussion with, have recognized that and gone to the point of making their own calculations to extend my Triple Curve into the more recent developments. And Debbie has seen that. I haven’t seen it as such, but I’ve heard it described, and I know what she has described is quite accurate; that’s exactly the way it has happened. There has been a sudden phase-shift downward in the state of the US and the world economy during the first two weeks of October. It has happened exactly as I said it would happen.
Now, those who profess to doubt that, were basing themselves on public information of the type which is completely crap! In other words, they had no evidence, but they chose to believe that they were shaken in their confidence by what they were reading in the press. And this, I mean, this is really a whore’s game. You know, the whore smiles when the prospective client comes up, and that’s the way some of Boomers acted on this case of this October forecast. What I warned was going to happen, has happened {exactly} as what I warned would happen. There’s no difference from that. But, there was a – people wished to be foolish and prematurely senile, and therefore, they reacted in a way that a prematurely senile person would react. You gotta – don’t appear to be senile! Let me warn you Boomers. It’s dangerous to appear to be senile. They’ll cart you off and kill you, and burn you for ashes! [Laughter] Don’t be senile anymore! And don’t get any more of these crazy fits.
Now, this is mostly comes from the Boomers domination in the regions. It also comes out from some problems in the Leesburg area, where people get – because they’re trying to play games with their own mind – they screw up and forget the point. The way we organize, the way we get our income comes only from what we do through LPAC. We may get some other income from other sources, and we do; but we get because of what we do with LPAC. When you shut down the support of LPAC, and say you’ve got some high priorities or something, we can’t afford LPAC right now, you’re committing suicide, you’re committing political suicide. You’re saying we’re going out of existence. So, you just have to control some of your Boomer friends who are prone to fits of senility. They’re not justified; they haven’t done enough work to become senile, but they take pleasure in doing that.
Anyway, so that’s the problem. And you just – {Don’t do this any more!} This old thing, which comes from some people in the office and some of the regions, really is a kind of moral senility. And it’s done on the thing—[in dumb, whiny voice] “Well, we, some people we talk to said differently. We can’t say that anymore, don’t you understand?†And like all these people going out, they want to talk to somebody about what happened. Instead of telling them what happened, they come out with a long pitch, [same voice] “Well, let me tell you, it’s starts like this…â€, and then about a half an hour later, when they’ve finished their wind-up, the person they were talking to has walked away. This typical Boomer stuff!……………………
ALICIA: Hey, Lyn. I just want to ask you a question because it’s been a point of discussion here, you know, it comes up with the OTCs every single day. What are we going to do about the intelligence, because there are a couple of people that we can count on, and if we can a hold of them, it works. But otherwise, it just makes a big difference here if people are in reality, and if they’re not, well, you can see what happens, so… [crosstalk]
LAROUCHE: Two things on this. First of all, what happens is, when we get into a financial bind, the most qualified people just aren’t available, because they’re doing something else. And you get people who are less qualified, and less emotionally stable, who sort of shape the opinion among the Boomer layer in particular. This extends to the phone teams, which are the liaison to various cesspools, which they pass through intellectually in going from one locale to another. And so, you get a real panic of complete incompetence, because you have fewer competent people on the job, from among the Boomer strata in particular. This is my nightmare, because every time I leave that joint, to come to this joint, I can anticipate a catastrophic loss in intellectual capacity represented by organization as a whole there, and internationally immediately. But I have to do things here, because I have things I must do here. We don’t travel back and forth across the Atlantic once a week. So, when I leave the United States, I’m here for some weeks, and every time catastrophe breaks out. Sometimes it comes from some youth problems, but usually the real catastrophes come from the Boomers When the Boomers who are capable and thinking clearly, are tied up, and the other ones who are thinking clearly, or would be thinking clearly, are out there doing something financially, instead of paying attention to politics, then you get, you know, the third team comes in? The ones that haven’t got their jock straps on? [laughter] Or ladies with jock straps, something like that. And that’s what happens.
You have to have a sense of self-defense, what if I didn’t exist, huh? You have to have a sense of bull**** is bull****, and when you can smell it, call it what it is. I laid out some very clear policies on the organization’s approach to October. I did that very carefully, knowing I would be absent during that part of the month. And I said specifically what had to be done, and what had not to be done. And I defined the perspective for this month precisely as I described it, and {as it has happened!} Nothing different than what I described has happened. What I described has happened. You get some guys, who get nervous, and they say, “Uouonh!†[groans] Panic, huh? Something different. Well, it was never different, it was just impressionism of Nervous Nellies. And it was Boomers; it started in the regions, and spilled back into the phone teams. Gerry’s got his back turned, pssfftt! Some wild nonsense comes. And you’ve got some people who are still malicious toward me in the organization, especially among the Boomers. They’re malicious toward me, not because of what I did to them, but of what they did to me, and some Boomers cannot forgive me for what they did to me. That’s the way it works in life, you know. People don’t hate you because of what you did to them; they hate you for they did to you. And that’s what that goes on. Anyway.
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Moving onward, a bit more cognitive dissonance comes into the picture with Cody Jones here telling that he was prepping for the economic collapse, but had to explain to the disbelievers that they’re wrong, and on we go to the Personality Cult of “The One” — and explaining to the LYM cohorts how to keep the faith against the crisis and the lack of Crisis Coverage outside the purview of the cult, to keep the faith as they confront the Masses unaware that they reside in a New Dark Age. (First three and a half minutes… I hear tell that after that, the hits do keep on coming, but I myself dropped after that. Note that he himself has no doubt of the New Dark Age.)
Then again, another problem with raising funds is shown around here — people you’d hate meeting at a cocktail party, and the “Unwelcome” sign:
New Fairfield is still stinging from racist and sexist e-mails forwarded by two public officials earlier this month, and Tuesday’s visit by the LaRouche Political Action Committee was the last thing it needed.
She was pushing the beliefs of an American named LaRouche and kept calling him an economist. [Note: an important parcel for Leatherstocking in editing wikipedia articles.  Has had tremendous success at the endevor, and the first paragraph in particular certainly does stink there. Has a cache of Russian sources at his disposal. Dennis King comes in here , and refers to the stench this throws on wikipedia.  King then posts something that is within the scope of sort of my pet issue in the Larouche wikipedia items – Leaterhstocking never posts the entirety of what Larouche has said. Now I leave the digression.]  The last time I heard of him was in 2000 when a van of supporters drove around and indirectly called my aunt a whore.
[…] <tactics here. A sort of good cop / bad cop. A few phrases leap out:
 I tried to explain that their message appeared convoluted to people passing by; they said they didn’t care about popular opinion. I tried to explain the problem with Hitler Obama; they said they don’t care about advertising, they care about reality. One of them also said she doesn’t care about truth.
Or, put another way:
 you want an explanation? that just means you are going to have to do some work! I agree with the last poster, you DO sound arrogant as hell! and that may hinder your capability to understand what Larouche is talking about. you may be too emotionally attached to your current axioms, and your arrogance will get in the way of your conceptions being challenged.
Well then.
Posted by The Daily Elitist , Economics at University of Nebraska on April 28, 2009 at 10:15pm (I don’t believe you, or this set up.)
I long dismissed the LaRouchies as a “cult,” just as I’d been conditioned to by the corporate media and the higher-ups in academia; however, the ongoing financial and economic crisis has made me re-think many of my long-held views concerning economics and social organization generally. I think any honest person even slightly familiar with the work of LaRouche and his supporters must now concede that he’s been right about nearly everything.
Mr. LaRouche truly is one of the greatest minds the United States has ever produced, and it is to our eternal disgrace that we’ve ignored and even tried to silence him. My suggestion: look at what he actually says and the predictions he’s actually made – not what the media tells you he thinks. Venture out of the classroom and look at what’s physically occurring in the real world, and then try to tell me, with a straight face, that his approach to economics doesn’t make far more sense than any other yet devised.
Seriously, just read what he has to say – and don’t let anyone else do your thinking for you
But I guess they’ll always have an audience so long as we have this:
“Right loons, as against the Left loons in power”.
For whom I suppose they could go for the soft sell.
All I can see is that this nation (USA) is very messed up right now. L. Larouche has a plan, might work – might not, but once you understand monetarism (Keynasian), you’d see that there is no recovery, just inflation to hide debt. That is what LaRouche really wants to fix, and then he wants us to have a mission to go to Mars. How bad is that?
“Might work. Might not.” Har de har har. See, he does have parts of things to sell… as from an LPAC clipping for the day:
American statesman Lyndon LaRouche’s call to re-establish the Glass-Steagall standard in the United States, to separate speculation from legitimate investment deserving of government protection, has been echoed
by Senators and various politicians and actual live economists dating back to when it was repealed in 1999 (Senator Dorgan of North Dakota, for instance), as against Bill Clinton who still today defends the repeal. But never mind.  It’s “flanking” various issues.
One final note:Â Mr. Benton does not deserve this write-up.Â
Fall Church News-Press (Wow! Deeds’ second endorsement is by a paper run by Lyndon LaRouche devotees!
I suppose this is the type of blogger who’d then go on to claim the “Larouche wackos” at town hall meetings are being over-reported to diss the whole tea party movement. (Proudly showcasing this comic book on his sidebar?) Still, leave it to Howie G to toss out a particularly homophobic smear for his clarification. (He’s done this line before.):
Here’s a good effort to deflect the cult  from the tea party movement.
And a warning shot about the Obama Hitler.Â
Moments like this ask us to examine our emotional responses and form cogent responses to the ideas invoked. Is this a lot of work? It can be. There’s a lot that’s been created in the history of the world.  But at least we’d be taking life and citizenship as seriously as the LaRouche people do. Otherwise the future just might end up in their hands!Â
Please don’t give them that false hope. Supposedly they’d rise to power on the behest of World Elites at the bdawn of an Economic Crisis. That didn’t happen. They missed their moment, which seems to spell a bit of their cognitive dissonance.
October 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
It’s really only a passing and trifling matter, but pondering the response to Howie G on Benton’s (not exactly surprising, I think I’ve sussed out his partisan predilictions) endorsement of the Democratic Gubernatorial candidate in Virginia.
RightOnGallows, on October 26th, 2009 at 4:01 pm Said:
sure he did…
I recognize this is lobbing a basic partisan hack insult — but I’m curious as to what “RightOnGallows” thinks is the case. Does he believe that Benton still meets in the councils of the Larouche organization — secretly continuing the process in running his paper in a drawn out conspiracy, or that he commences forward a “Larouchian ideology” (though that fails to meet the original statement “Larouche devotees).
Or I should take it as a blind spur of the moment insult and leave it at that, figuring he’d view it as Larouche’s organization as an outgrowth of 60s Left-wing dementia I suppose a blind spot not forwarded to peoples he might agree with more — say, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz .
October 29th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Rachel Maddow confronts the problem:
http://tpmtv.talkingpointsmemo.com/?id=3771770
Police Case in Seattle.
http://iheartsea.com/blogs/chs-capitol-hill-seattle/2009/10/blotter-woman-scuffles-larouche-table-workers-over-obama-hitl
Howie G chimes in.
And yes, this is an interesting LPAC release:
Tea-Baggers Promote Fascist Health “Reform,” Attempt to Squash Mass Strike
LPAC (Oct. 28, 2009)–In direct response to the effect Lyndon LaRouche has had on the political situation in the wake of October’s phase-shift into an imminent spiral into a new dark age that will exceed the New Dark Age of the 14th century, Lyndon LaRouche today accused “the so-called “Tea Bag” movement of phony conservatives who call themselves opponents of Obama’s Hitler health policy, of putting itself at the head of an all-out effort by the British Empire to stifle the mass strike in the United States that threatens to topple the whole British-controlled health care debate and restore the United States to a Constitutional credit system rather than the British-Delphic monetary system. The phony “Tea Bag” movement,” LaRouche continued, which has sent bus tours across the United States, but is only drawing crowds of 300-1000, “set itself as its goal to coopt, preempt and demoralize the mass strike that began in August and led to the hundreds of thousands of ordinary American citizens attending thousands of town hall meetings called by senators and congressmen, to protest against Obama’s Hitler health policy.”
LaRouche called this “a transparent attempt to derail the mass strike, that reveals the desperation of the British Empire and its puppets like Obama, in the wake of the breakthrough agreement last week between China and Russia that represents a massive step towards the credit system that LaRouche has called for, by putting the backing of real, physical production, behind the otherwise worthless dollars represented by the bond issue of U.S. dollars held by China. With India in the wings, all that is needed is to get the U.S. behind it, and the four-powers agreement abolishing the monetary system and replacing it with a credit system, can become a reality, just as I have called for” LaRouche said.
This phony “Tea Bag” movement cannot suppress the mass strike that accelerated greatly in October, in direct response to the phase-shift downward that took place in October, mostly before October 12, exactly as LaRouche had forecast in his August 1 webcast. The hundreds of thousands that turned out last August are now millions of Americans, “wir sind das volk,” just waiting for the opportunity to storm the Bastille and tear down the Berlin wall, impelled by spiralling unemployment, the collapse of the dollar, starvation that is spreading across people who have lost their unemployment benefits, and the fact that fully one-third of the American labor force is out of work.
LaRouche also cautioned that “doubters in own ranks should know that they risk being exposed as idiots if they continue to doubt the massive phase-shift that took place in the middle of October, and the earthquake-like effect it has had on the mass strike.” LaRouche added that “they will be useless idiots, just as Lenin forecast” if they fail to shut their mouths and stop speaking bullsh*t.”