Tangentally.

Memo the the “web2.o” brainiacs tasked to “blog” for the latimes.  Don’t put up a “Call for your swine ful conspiracies” entry.  There’s only one of two ways the flow of the comments are going to go.

In this case, the second comment set the tone and debunking his claims, or rebunking his claims, dominated the forseeable commenting.  Witness:

Whether the swine flu is real or not, the cure for all viruses and pathogens has been around since the beginning of the 20th century. It’s called silver colloid. I personally use Mesosilver. Although I hear Unlike the patented antibiotics sold by Big Pharma, bacteria are not immune to silver. You have to make sure it comes from a legit source though. Fake colloids have a potential to cause agrophyia, which can turn the skin blue.

I use it personally to stop toothaches (caused by the same pathogens that cause cavities), and for athletes foot.

I think Revgen has just added to the conspiracy theories, using bogus ‘science’ to make huge untrue claims. As a scientist, I certainly wouldn’t trust any one ‘silver bullet’ remedy. While Big Pharma’s only interested in making drugs that will make them money, each virus and bacteria are unique organisms and require different metabolisms and if silver could get into the bacteria, it could probably get out just as easily. If you think silver is going to solve your problems, by all means, continue taking it. I personally would rather rely on true science that requires testing and validation and has gone through immense clinical trials.

Whether or not the swine flu is real… Don’t take silver colloid as some cure-all and remember, ‘if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.’

Oh, and if you’re a scientist, at least give us your name and position. Everybody can be a scientist on the internet.
Posted by: Revgen | April 28, 2009 at 05:59 PM

I’m not giving credentials and I don’t have to. I’m not giving you any information that requires it. I think intuition would tell everyone that if someone claims silver is the cure-all (for pathogens) then we would’ve know for a long time, it would be FDA approved, and we would live in harmony with the microbes. And yeah, I suppose we could all be scientists over the internet, but you would certainly get laughed at by the scientific community if you actually thought that worked. Sorry man, but your cure-all claim was killed the second you said ‘all viruses and bacteria.’

Beetle,

The FDA has already classifies Silver Colloid as a pre-1938 drug to treat infections and diseases related to pathogens, so your “FDA would have approved it” banter is rather pointless. I first started using silver colloid on the advice of my doctor (who’s been in practice for 40 years plus). However due to drug company influence in recent years (50% of the FDA budget is drug company profits. Drug companies lose money, FDA employees lose their jobs. Talk about a conflict of interest.), they have been trying to tell doctors that it’s better to use patented antibiotic poisons instead and has only allowed Silver Colloid manufacturers to label their products as “supplements”. Thankfully, my doctor is an old-timer who knows that’s a bunch of nonsense.

The reason why Silver is a cure for viruses and bacteria isn’t because it attacks their immune system like Anti-Biotics do. It’s because it actually bypasses the immune system completely. The bacteria sees silver as a harmless substance (since it’s not a poison, just a mineral) and lets it pass through. Once it does, the silver compromises the bacteria’s digestive system, and the bacteria die off. Since the bacteria’s immune system does not detect silver, the bacteria cannot become immune to it.

And

“‘I’m not giving credentials and I don’t have to……”
“I think intuition would tell everyone that if someone claims …..”

someone sounds as if they are straddling the fence between science and the realm beyond science. There is so much information out there about the colloidal silver, why not read about it before you make YOUR claims. Have had personal experience with colloidal silver when the strongest antibiotic known didnt do ‘squat’ for my loved ones condition. I suppose we choose our beliefs and values based on personal experience and or loved ones experiences, what failed, what worked, particularly that which works superbly. It is fair to say colloidal silver COULD work for the swine flu. I hope you never catch it, i hope i never catch it, but colloidal silver & sambucol would be my families first choice to battle it……to be “laughed at by the scientific community if you actually thought that worked”…now theres a first….

Guy just sees no reason to force you from your Collodial Silver.  The benefit in making himself known does not

Anyway… the question asked about here:

PS @ Beetle et al: just b/c silver was used to kill bacteria in *water purifiers* doesn’t mean it should be used that way in the *human body*. BIG difference in mechanisms there.
See:
http://www.rense.com/general12/blueasdf.htm
and
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html

Posted by: JewelD | April 29, 2009 at 06:34 PM

via the Rense link (god love Rense!) “Will it turn your skin blue?”  Here’s Montana Libertarian Party star Stan Jones.

What does this have to do with the Swine Flu, though?
Nevermind, this is the type of user feedback that is going to save the Newspaper as we move further and further into the Age of the Internet.

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