A ground report in the Ongoing War Against Newton:
Speaking of physics-related skeptical topics, have any of you seen the LaRouchians (aka the LaRouchebags) on campus? They’re a very politically oriented personality cult surrounding Lyndon LaRouche, and I think they prey on college dropouts. Among other things, they believe Newton, who may or may not have even existed, stole all his ideas from Kepler. Newton’s laws are plagiarized from Kepler’s laws. Joe tried showing them a physics problem involving friction, and asked them to solve it using only Kepler’s laws (which only deal with orbital motion). Their reaction was to question his credentials, and then promptly ignore him. They literally turned their back towards him, even while trying to talk to someone next to him.
They better send out reinforcements writing out more placards with the slogan “Newton Was A Fraud and We Can Prove It”. There is even more evidence that this war is being lost.
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A blog post called “La Rouche and God” (Strange title, even for this) runs into what itches the cult seems to provide scratches toward. This is an interesting summation of perception:
Their theory is to go back in time and review the great discoveries, then we could use that now to improve the lives of people on this planet. I agree that it needs improvement. We all hope for a better world.
For the life of me I cannot figure out whether that makes a sense “in theory” as one tool amongst many in Historic Inquiry, but as practiced by the LYM and its predecessor, the NCLC, it devolves into placing great discoveries into one or the other pile of fighters of the Dark Age or perpetrators of the Dark Age — seen in the long list here, and in skipping down to Part III of this blog entry, also in putting Larouche and his disciples as doing the work of Jesus and his Disciples. xlcer, skimming these things, pops in with his rote response — a suggestion to xlcer: feel free sprinkle in a bit of targetted material such as that historical gem in that standard template — it might prove somewhat more effective. BUT… good luck to this young Christian woman in offering up the Larouche recruiters your faith in God, I suppose
They invited me to a meeting to discuss these issues and hear more research and speeches on these ideas. I’m going to go. Maybe I can influence some to hope and pray to God for those things. The idea that we can change the world, its great, really. But more than the things that we could achieve, is the idea that all we truly need is faith, hope, and love, mostly love.
— but remember: they don’t believe in love… they believe in agape. A distinction that would allow for (from evidence put forth in the recently historically reimagined Alexandria Trial, first box here):
The trouble with you people at the national center is you are too soft. You identify too much with people’s concerns and their problems. You have to have only one thing on your mind. That is getting the money. No matter what the person you are talking to says, get the money. If you are talking to a little old lady and she says she is going to lose her house, ignore it. Get the money.
If you are talking to an unemployed worker who says he has got to feed, you know, a dozen children, forget it. Get the money . . . Most of these people are immoral anyway. This is the most moral thing they have ever done is to give you money.
I don’t want to hear any more God damned complaints about loan repays. You job is to raise money. You job is to figure out how to make the quota. And that’s what I want to hear from you. . . Look, people would ask for their money back right now, but we are in the midst of a war fighting for survival for the human race. People who ask for their money back now are immoral. We are at war. In war, there are casualties. You have to tell you [lenders] that.
Which reminds me — we can see the imprints of the Historical Revisionism regarding that trial here:
AND, more curiously, see where the most recent “Molly Kronberg Defeated Larouche HBPA in South Dakota” story found its way to. This is a forum to a 9/11 Truth page, and while it is not terribly surprising to see a Larouche story provided by a Larouchian strolling around the “9/11 Truth”space, it is a bit puzzling for him to pluck out the story about Molly Kronberg. A story I frankly don’t believe would register much for this spectrum of the political fringe, concerned more with measuring dust mites in frames of the footage of the second tower collapse than in assessing the persecution of this “movement”. But maybe Jerry Pyenson is working off of auto-pilot. (When I say it’s not surprising to see Larouche in 9/11 Truth space I point to this from a forum off of an Alex Jones site):
A Larouche Fan Says:
I see people saying alex jones is a shill, cia. etc. But compaired to the corporate media, he atleast tells the truth. Or if he dont tell the truth. its godamn close. and btw jessie did say fudge. He is a little respectable. basically saying they been f’n up. We are adults. You can say the f-word as much as you like. Lyndon Larouche told the truth during the 9-11 attacks LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can keep being fooled, or you can just see the truth. I didnt sleep for a month. but such is life. Yes alex is a salesman, BUY GOLD NOW! etc godda make a dollah to hollah.. looken at the history of gold.. I would have to assume him.. correct.. The fed.res needs to go. Viva Revolutiona!
Lyndon Larouche , Ron Paul. = Real Change!!
An odd occurence happened with Mr. Pyenson… he popped into this Ground Report on the Lobbying for the HBPA Resolution, which I guess makes sense as he is a front-line soldier in the Cause:
“You were lied to by the economists,†Pyenson told the council as he warned that, without action, the U.S. would be up against something darker than the wrath of Hitler and Mussolini. He noted that Newark, Paterson, East Orange, Edison and Orange had all passed similar resolutions.
Five speakers down the line, fellow LaRouche supporter Adam Rodriguez addressed the council, railing against the “London-centered banking system†and warning that we were “heading for a new Dark Age.†As Rodriguez began his remarks, Jersey Journal columnist Earl Morgan sighed loudly and ambled across the room to chat with business administrator Brian O’Reilly.
Nary a council member responded in any way to Pyenson’s or Rodriguez’s remarks.
In consideration for Jerry Pyenson, it’s worth pointing to this – a demonstration of the type of history gymnastics that he’s forced to pull here.
Can we plaster away these past prognoses on a dime? Yes We Can!
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As well “yes we can” post this Malarky to a long dated American Prospect blog post:
I can’t take anything that Molly/Marielle/Ms. Kronberg says at face value, now that I know she has taken to fraternizing with Dennis King and Chip Berlet. Nothing that LaRouche has said or done, publicly or privately, could be so bad as to justify collaborating with those two soulless ladies of the night.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 4, 2009 5:09 PM
Presumably this latest item spurred by Molly Kronberg writing article to Dennis King’s website, but it’s in the blood — as seen by Leatherstocking at wikipedia here:
Dude, I know that you and Dennis are buds, but …
BUT… it don’t stop there, as “Howie G” asks this new blogger, of interest to those interested in this (which, if you’ve read this far down is probably you):
In other news, Robert Dreyfuss is being kicked around a bit again (look it up). Larouche expressed outrage that Teriq Aziz was sentenced to prison time, and he expressed approval of a rail-line’s completion. Also, Webster Tarpley, called out in the org for lying about the future, has his “Obama Deception” film with Alex Jones as the most viewed video at yahoo. I see no posting at LPAC on Seymour Hersh’s comment about Dick Cheney yet, which leads me to question what kind of ramshackle outfit these guys are running these days — that should have been plastered up with a supposed comment from “American Statesman” PRONTO — I mean, at least with no longer a lag time than they got up the “Dennis King Suicide” piece… What, are the Internal buttressing matters more important than the External Show?