the riddle that is the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party
My recent re-ignited curiosity in wading through the riddle of the “Libertarian Natioanl Socialist Green Party” took me over to the wikipedia article on the item. Which is entirely useless. But what does offer up suggestions comes from the editing jobs to create the page, which is largely made up of the debate over “Is this a joke?” and the debate on “Pointless enough to delete?” (Though also fairly illuminating is the debate over “White Supremacy”, which has a number of “uh huh”s.)
I checked the archives for nazi.org [1] to see if the the website was previously intended as a joke, and then somehow acquired a (serious) life of its own. As I found out, its ideological core has been consistent througout its existence on the Net. More interestingly, it appears that the party is a much older organisation (existing since 1983) predating online pranksterism (and even predating the Sokal Hoax!). As is symptomatic of most political movements, the core ideology has been maintained and expanded upon, with an intent to permeate aspects of practical life and gain new recruits. Similarly the archive of anus.com [2] shows more or less the same result (as is expected since A.N.U.S reputedly predates the internet). The point here is members of LNSGP and A.N.U.S share a subcultural milieu, that has been existing for at least 30 years. No joke can last that long, and symptomatically resemble a genuine movement. Moreover, such a subcultural milieu is plausible since its co-option of Nazism is (technically) no different from the postmodern co-option of Marx and Freud in the academic subculture. It is perfectly concievable that a group of renegade thinkers felt that “Hitler was on to something” while disagreeing with his genocidal policies. Besides being merely plausible, such a subculture even seems well-timed. The “Green”, “Tribal” and “Pagan” aspects of LNSGP are very countercultural, and seems likely to be championed by new activists in the late 70s / early 80s who were disillusioned by the lovey-dovey (and ultimately flaky) inclusive counterculture of the 60s, and wanted to create a new counterculture based on tribal authority and fervent defense of/attachment towards “tribal lands” (cf: Völkisch movement,Führerprinzip) rather than some ineffective political action.
Right? Right?
This was on their website, The LNSG will begin supporting candidates for local elections in 2007.
WHO?
I’m still not convinced that this is anything more than a satirical website. Satirical entities with no existence besides a website are not worthy of a Wikipedia entry. And somebody keeps saying over and over “You’ve just got preconceived definitions!” Well, that’s how words are defined. If they weren’t preconceived, there would be no point to the word. The one or two links that mention it sound like they have just been as taken in with the fabrication as this article. I move that this article be deleted. Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_for_things_made_up_in_school_one_day
Harksaw 20:15, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Supposedly made up sometime pre-dating the Internate Age to 1983. But these seem fairly easily crafted, and all we’re stuck with is “aware of since the early 1990s”