Wikipedia; Robert Dreyfuss.
From the sea of edits at wikipedia:
The supposed biography of Kronberg is an excuse to push a conspiracy theory about his death. —Masai warrior 23:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- I don’t think a conspiracy theory is alleged. The article appears to lay out a story in which a failed business man is pushed to suicide by a lack of support from his community. No one disputes that version of events. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 23:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- How do you know it was “lack of support from his community”? He left no suicide note. For all we know, he was pushed to suicide by a wife who was undermining his life’s work by supporting George Bush. In a matter like this, it is disrectful to the deceased to speculate about his motives, but the real issue here is that the usual gang, King, Berlet, etc., have ghoulishly seized upon Kronberg’s death to push their agenda. That’s why this is a coatrack article. —Masai warrior 13:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
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Actually, no. Kenneth Kronberg is a WP:COATRACK article which was created as a vehicle to smuggle in a WP:FRINGE theory from Dennis King’s website, LYNDON LAROUCHE AND THE ART OF INDUCING SUICIDE. As the title suggests, the article accuses LaRouche of using some form of mind control to cause Kronberg to commit suicide. LaRouche is, of course, a living person. —Marvin Diode 06:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- How does the belief that the actions of the LaRouche movement led to the suicide of Kronberg count as a “fringe theory”. It appears to be the mainstream view because it has been published in a mainstream reliable source. Also, we aren’t using the link you provided as a source. The page we’re using as a source is this memo. Do you have any basis for disputing the accuracy of the memo as posted? ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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About the only susbtantial bit of partisan or ideological aruguing garnered from online discussion of the WaMo piece comes hereabouts and hereabouts. Robert Dreyfuss, distinguished enough individual who…
Maybe I should have “Robert Dreyfuss” keyed, to see if commenters such as Jean Gabriel — Rooseveltarians(?!?) take a hankering to them. Anecdotally, I can point to the name popping up with this comment: the work done by the best of the writers Ken published over the years: Spannaus, Chaiken, Salisbury. Or alumni like Robert Dreyfus. –suggesting his use as someone in the mainstream media a Larouchian feels they can hang their hat on in terms of “influence”.
Okay. A bit chagrained here. I cannot really comment on Dreyfuss’s book, essentially an apologia for the Shah of Iran as it was being deposed. It’s not impossible to imagine Hostage to Khomeini as a complete embarrassment of undiluted Larouchianism. But, delving further down that spiral, Dreyfuss was complicit in the very worst that Larouche had to offer:
Speaking of Robert Dreyfuss… he was one of the three authors of the infamous revisionist and antisemitic 1978 Campaigner “Zionism is not Judaism”.
Here is what he wrote about the “Myth of the Six million” (p.10):
“If the worship of the fortress at Masada by the modern Oxford- and Cambridge-trained Israeli elite is bad enough, the stench of the Big Lie emanates from the current propaganda about the Nazi holocaust. This point the U.S. Labor Party has documented elsewhere; the point need only be recapitulated here.
Among the strongest backers of the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi movement to power were the Zionist financiers of the City of London, the Hofjuden who had been deeply enmeshed in the “Return to the East” cult phenomenon since the rise of the official Zionist movement in the 1830s and afterwards. The Zionists viewed, the role of Nazism in Europe a process of race purification of the Jews, whereby the Jews that survived the holocaust would have passed through a “selection” process and would be fit colonists for Palestine. “
Does he still agree with it? If not, would he apologize?
The two other authors were Mark Burdman (who died three years ago) and Paul Goldstein (who escaped US Justice in 1987)
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Robert Dreyfus has had endless meetings and phone calls with Jeff Steinberg for years. He probably has a better relation with him now than when he was in the LC. They both have the same friends .
In the book “Secret Warriors” one can find the name “Karen Kwiatowski” being described as a “Larouche Mole”. I have not seen the book and can’t verify that yet.
So there’s the grist for that mill.