Al Gore’s Nazi Garden, and other
Hm. It almost seems as though Larouche himself has decreed that an offensive be launched at the FACTNet board. So this is what Lyndon Larouche does to a young man?
OK I have read plenty here this is a very elaborate devious trick indeed whether it is intentional or accidental. The trap is one of deduction. I will explain what too many from the LYM fall trap into as they walk into this domain of self perpetuated deceit!
Well, at least we have the suggestion that “too many from the LYM” are falling into this here “domain of self perpetuated deceit”. Too bad that google exists. Larouche needs to take some pointers from Scientology and the North Korean government in how to better surpress the outside world from interfering with the Party Line.
Really? “Self Perpetuated Deceit”? Continuing on:
Any and all X members are such because they really did not learn one key fundamental. How to come to understand something to be true! Do you take popular opinion? All those opinions CANT POSSIBLY BE WRONG, right? How about the accumulation of a whole bunch of facts that will get to the truth right? Because the simple tally of more facts will show an aggregation of evidence which always leads us in the right direction? Right?
Oh, this is good! I like this guy. I like him for his lack of self-awareness of his sheer pompous absurdity. “Any and all X members are such because they failed to learn”, etc.? Really? That there is the cult mindset. After that, it has the scent of a cartoon super-villian, feverishly rubbing his hands together as he plots world domination — this would be right before that last commercial break where things look bleakest for whoever the cartoon good guys.
But the Quincunx of Heaven runs low, and ’tis time to close the five ports of knowledge. We are unwilling to spin out our awaking thoughts into the phantasms of sleep, which often continueth precogitations; making Cables of Cobwebs and Wildernesses of handsome Groves. Besides Hippocrates hath spoke so little and the Oneirocriticall Masters, have left such frigid Interpretations from plants that there is little encouragement to dream of Paradise it self. Nor will the sweetest delight of Gardens afford much comfort in sleep; wherein the dullness of that sense shakes hands with delectable odours; and though in the Bed of Cleopatra, can hardly with any delight raise up the Ghost of a Rose.
No. Wait. I wandered off somewhere.
Whatever. I can look at this from a few vantage-points. The better one is to say that I think the jimmyos of that board have a sufficient vantage point to not be terribly impressed. I suspect that the new content at FACTNet is going to be rather pointless for the next few days, as the Cartoon Super Villian Genius has his way.
In the meantime, I want to discuss Al Gore’s Nazi Garden for a moment. Um. Okay. I think I need this translated into the Larouchians’ purple prose.
My misguided brethren who so quickly render the blame upon those they don’t understand ascend unto true understanding from doing hard core work. Work that goes into history looking for invisible things the only things that are really existent because they remain when all the perceptible things wax and wane!
EXACTLY!
Okay. Here’s the thing about that article on Al Gore’s Nazi Garden.
It is just about the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen.(*)
No, wait. Someone else gave out that opinion on the FACTNet board, and the epitome of the type of “ex Larouchie” he is warning me against at that. And here’s what I was warned against…
Lastly remember, If you are truly intent on understanding what Larouche is saying stop taking second hand opinions!
Damneditall! Foiled AGAIN!
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(*) Charitably I could dredge up some notes from a History 102 class and some throw-away references to garden types and philosophical epochs. But really, what good could that possibly do?
… Continuing to study rare exotic floral genus. For this gutter outlet of Wall Street Fascist John Train…
June 8th, 2007 at 3:58 am
The idea that Al Gore is a racist BECAUSE he wants to encourage the growth of native fauna is so breathtakingly nuts that I have to think the LaRouche operation is plumbing some new depths.
Also, yes, it does seem to be the case that there is a LaRouchie onslaught on FactNET, except not very well done, since the timefortruth guy is incoherent and hysterical, and the odd-one/steve guy, although superficially more rational, is basically spending more and more of his air time, as it were, defending the most lurid anti-Semitic excesses of LaRouche and friends.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:17 am
There is an undeniable entertainment value to this.
“YOU WILL ALL COWER BEFORE ME, Measly Mortals!”
Dont make yourselves look stupid I am almost done with these games!
None can stand upright in the light of these accusations!
The Naysayers cower because they have been exposed!
Pathetic! And you call yourselves adults! HA! Driveling pathetic ADULTS!
Your speaking of what You have limited to no Knowledge of will slowly become unraveled as I will ultimately make all who challenge me embarrassments of this network! I just only wish I were challenged in public so I could organize the potential lot of naysayers in public as well (I would of course use a different method of communication because the general public is usually open minded when the are approached in a certain way)!
Step forward all who think they have something of credence to utter!
One by one my fundamental principle will be affirmed and communicated to others to free their minds of the shackles of this pseudo hell of “truth”! That none of the intended minds here have done any of the work that would warrant 1/1000 of the things said here!
They only speak of personal experience that can not be demonstrated by anyone!Including themselves!
My visceral candor is a result of what I am dealing with here! Baseless B.S character assassination.
I wont shine the light by just writing words either!
I will show you all the WORKS that extensively document and refute the falsities you all have too quickly called your opinion, that is absent of timely meditation and devoid of meticulous rigor, to shame all into thinking, and away from asinine assertions!
So come naysayers! The young “brainwashed cultist” is about to make work of ye all!
Um. Oh. Kay. It is… intoxicating. I will note that he later identifies himself as one of those modern Youth Leaders, and I guess he’s “recreating” the great experiences of human history.
Larouche recruits: If you work hard enough — you too can have all this!
Notable is his response to someone who is essentially a Believer in the Cause, which is… he hasn’t gotten deep enough… to know, to TRULY KNOW:
I met quite a few people like Steve / Odd One when I was in the org. They were always good to talk to and seemed to have a better grasp than I of Lyns policies, philosophy etc… What’s more, the “Steves†were not cultish and would apparently think for themselves. That may be why I joined in the first place and then stayed in the org as long as I did. What I was never able to swallow was the non-linearity of a late night discussion about Riemann, Cusa, Schiller etc and then getting up at 5:00 am to suck exhaust at an intersection with a nut job like “time for_ truthâ€
I didn’t quit because of the bogus promissory notes or the “now you see it, now you don’t†anti-Semitism. It was just the process of standing in front of a K-Mart, looking and all of the lit and wondering for which words on those pamphlets, books, newspapers am I standing there shivering. After peeling all the layers off of that onion and not finding anything, I basically folded up the card table and went home.
The response:
Well dave77 I am 130 percent sure if the time you were there you had went through a process of discovery you would still be in the movement.
I know I would have left as well if I were in your shoes.
But the mission requires that we really tap into the same stream of events that created this great republic, that created all the breakthroughs that allowed 6 billion Plus individuals to live on this earth! That allowed Men Like Martin Luthor king to lay his life for a cause outside of himself!
I am hardly a nut job! But every single one of these posters are, and I want you to lay whitness to all of their arguments crumble!Â
Followed by the blather of the bombastic chest-thumping.
I’m thinking I should keep my eyes on the ball and bypass this idiocy.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:42 am
Note that on FactNET, Eaglebeak has a post suggesting that this timefor_truth guy (the one whose ravings Justin quotes above) is actually an anti-LaRouche operative whose intention is to make the LYM and the LaRouche org look as crazy as possible, and boy! is he succeeding!
June 8th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
That whole site is full of nutcases. They are all either ex-members or people who have a obsesive compulsion with studying what is said about larouche, either way, nutcases.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Joey. Correct enough. I’m the latter, of course, and I make no apologies for it — well, except for my constant equivocations. The third group you did not mention are the current Larouchites, altogether a different level.
June 9th, 2007 at 2:15 pm
There are some people on FACTNet who are out to ruin LaRouche, I think. They’re not obsessed with what he says, but with what he does. The site got a lot more intense since a senior LaRouche org member committed suicide in April.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:10 am
Yes. The ghosts of Jeremiah Duggan on one hand and Ken Kronberg on the other seem to wisp in the background.
Well… I need to parse this out a little clearer, (else why sort through them?) but — right out of the gate. Exhibit 1 for current cult member is Tom. Exhibit 1 for ex-cult member is Scott, who… has been around these parts, and probably set me off on this Larouche path in the first place:
http://www.struat.com/justin/factnet1.htm
I like the quote about “the rigorous rules of classical music versus OPINIONS” — ala The Beatles, which Tom vigorously defends the conspiracy theory of it being a British Oligarchic plot.
By popular request:
http://www.struat.com/justin/timefortruthfiles.htm
Resources for the wandering soul confronted with Larouche. Nothing more. Nothing less.