1. How do you feel about drugs?
The Libertarian National Socialist Green party endorses a “do what thou wilt” policy toward individual lives, and in that context has no statement on drugs; however, individual members use them frequently and report that drugs are still excellent.

HALF A CENTURY OF THE GERMAN MOON BASE, 1942 – 1992

Everything NASA has told the world about the Mood is a lie and it was done to keep the exclusivity of the club from joinings by the third world countries. All these physical conditions make it a lot easier to build a Moonbase. Ever since their first day of landing on the Moon, the Germans started boring -and tunneling under the surface, and by the end of the war there was a small Nazi research base on the Moon.

The Implications of Nazi Animal Protection:

Putting aside for a moment the veracity of calling Hitler a vegetarian, let us consider some claims that have been made to that effect. Sociologists Arnold Arluke and Boria Sax wrote a very interesting article (Anthrozoos 5(1):6-31; 1992) that describes the familiar-sounding rhetoric that leading Nazis used to support vegetarianism. For example:

“The Fuhrer is deeply religous, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race… Both [Judaism and Christianity] have no point of contact to the animal element, and thus, in the end, they will be destroyed. The Fuhrer is a convinced vegetarian, on principle. His arguments cannot be refuted on any serious basis. They are totally unanswerable.”
Irrespective of whether Hitler, Goebbels or other leading Nazis were, in fact, devout vegetarians, their self-serving rhetoric, claiming the moral high ground, is consistent with that which has appeared from time to time on rec.food.veg. In that newsgroup, we have seen omnivores characterized as “barbarians,” “animal-killers,” “murderers,” and so forth. Clearly, many contemporary vegetarians regard themselves as ethically superior to omnivores.

3. Do you want to take over the world?
World federalism, or the concept of a single world government, has seemed attractive to noted intellectuals over many years of human history. The LNSG supports moving toward world federalism as long as tolerance for individual difference and local jurisdiction is preserved according to culture, with the rationale that a world government would focus humans together toward finding a future in our universe and would eliminate the overhead of local governments and military. Our culture is that of human nationalism, a species committed to improving its own intelligence and asserting its rights not just on earth but in our environment wherever we can go. The exponential growth of intelligence is argument enough that we as humans should not fear but embrace and develop all that is complex, fearful, ambiguous and exciting in life so that we may build more comprehensive, dynamic, and self-perpetuating structures for our descendents.

All of which is gone from the website of today. I don’t know what this is. I don’t know if this is serious or not. Today’s website looks pretty dead serious (note that the “Fate Magazine” – esque material, such as the Nazi Moon Bases are gone, replaced with links to — say — “Overthrow Magazine”.) Was the “Libertarian National Socialist Green Party” handed off to “New Management” that took the organization (such that it is) in a whole new direction?

It’s all so very confusing.

“I find it opportunistic to use the death of someone like Christopher Reeve — I think it is shameful — in order to mislead the American people. We should be offering people hope, but neither physicians, scientists, public servants or trial lawyers like John Edwards should be offering hype.

“It is cruel to people who have disabilities and chronic diseases, and, on top of that, it’s dishonest. It’s giving false hope to people, and I can tell you as a physician who’s treated scores of thousands of patients that you don’t give them false hope.” — Bill Frist; October 12, 2004

Michelle Malkin doesn’t let the “facts” get in the way of uncovering a liberal media bias in the Terri Schiavo Affair.

Capable of saying “Mommy” and “Help me.” And of “getting the feeling she’s falling” or getting “excited,” in her husband’s own testimony, when her head is not held properly.

Apologies to The Rick Emerson Show, who took this from somewhere else, but this debate over such matters all goes back to:

Let’s look at the polling data: over here.

“Do you think this case ought to be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court, or not?”

“Regardless of your preferences in the Schiavo case, do you think it is appropriate or inappropriate for Congress to get involved in this way?”

Appropriate: 27% Inappropriate: 70% Unsure: 3%

“Do you think the political leaders who are trying to keep Schiavo alive are more concerned about her and the principles involved, or more concerned about using her case for political advantage?” Options rotated

Schiavo/Principles: 19%; Political Advantage: 67%; Both: 4%; Other: 3%; Unsure: 7%.

I saw a poll result that shot up to over 85% somewhere. The poll result brought to mind the polls showing that, circa September 2001 — by god, a massive majority of Americans support a military mission into Afghanistan! Which means, Tod Koppell and such media figures should be prefacing interviews and spotlights on the likes of Randall Terry, Pat Buchannan, John Edward (!!!), and Michelle Malkin with the same sort of disclaimer they provided, say, an Arundhati Roy:

“Some of you, many of you, are not going to like what you hear tonight. You don’t have to listen. But if you do, you should know that dissent sometimes comes in strange packages.”

Let’s get back into the groove here, people!

There’s something kind of absurd and funny about various news reporters becoming registered posters at the forum “nazi.org”. (The forum and website for, I might remind you with a giggle, the “Libertarian National Socialist Green Party“.)

wilgoren Mar 22nd, 2005, 11:54am » Did anyone on this forum have any direct personal contact with Jeff Weise, who posted as Todesengel and NativeNazi? If you have any private email messages from him saved, or knew him directly, we would love to hear more about him so we can present the fullest, fairest portrait possible in The New York Times…please get in touch, wilgoren@nytimes.com. Thanks!

Butcher Mar 22nd, 2005, 12:28pm Do you know Jeff Weise? Or do you have any personal/private messages from him. He discussed issues in this forum apparently using the names Todesengel and NativeNazi. Please reply to mebutcher@wcco.cbs.com to forward any messages you have in your ‘saved’ folder. Or send me a note if you would like to meet with a reporter in the Red Lake, Minnesota area. Thanks….

forum Mar 22nd, 2005, 1:17pm I’m a reporter for The Forum newspaper in Fargo, N.D. I’d like to interview anyone who knew Jeff Weise, who posted as Todesengel and NativeNazi. Please contact me at adalrymple@forumcomm.com if you’d be willing to talk to a reporter and willing to provide your name.
Thanks.

From there, we get a bunch of posters cursing the “lousy jew run media”, and about what you’d expect from such a group… and a thread set aside to explain how this news-worthy group is going to handle the media. (Watch for an appearance on the Alan Colmes Radio Show this Friday! Ignore and laugh at WilGoren! Etc.)

By the way, paragraphs 1 and 2 should be switched here.

He created comic books with ghastly drawings of people shooting each other and wrote stories about zombies. He dressed in black, wore eyeliner and apparently admired Adolf Hitler and called himself the “Angel of Death” in German.

His father committed suicide about eight years ago, and his mother is in a nursing home after an auto accident, according to news reports.

Paragraph 2 being more causitive and important in explaining what went wrong with this kid, paragraph 1 showing the symptoms (both of being deeply troubed — ie: the Adolf Hitler part, and of being perahps simply a disaffected youth — ie — the part about zombie stores — Zombie Writing evidentally becoming the new cliche, to sit alongside “Marilyn Mansion fan” and “Wears Black”.)

I think I’ve reached the conclusion here.

Libertarian National Socialist Green Party.

You know, back in high school — Junior and Senior year — when I was fond of creating little jokey junk in my TI-82 calculator, a source of bemusement for me was to slide various contradictory elements together.

Thus, I have a profile of a fictional person who was the “First African American president for the Ku Klux Klan”. Pause. Press “Enter” on the calculator. “Organized the most massive Mass – Lynching in KKK History”. Pause. Press “Enter” on the calculator. “Believed to have committed suicide on that date.”

Ba De Dum.

“Ran For the Presidential Nomination for the Stalinist Totalitariarian Nazi Death Party” Pause. Press “Enter” on the calculator. “Lost” Pause. Press “Enter” on the calculator. “Was the leader of the ‘Moderate Wing’ of the Stalinst Totalitarian Nazi Death Party, advocating an increase in school lunch assistance programs, favoured affirmative action, and favoured a slightly lower tax rate, than the rigidly ideological members of the party.”

Ba De Dum.

Libertarian National Socialist Green Party. I can’t run with those jokes too far, because… well… someone out there would be apt to take them seriously:

The old site was about as PC as is conceivably possible for a self-proclaimed Nazi organization. Since it was anti-racist and didn’t really promote even ethnic nationalism it was inconsistent with National Socialism aside from being postmoral and biocentric (“nature before humanity”). This pissed off a lot of the neonazi morons and confused just about everyone else. At that time the “party” and website probably was for the most part a sort of esoteric joke of [Craig] Smith’s. Not that it was unserious but more that it was taking the piss out of modern politics. That element remains in the party name and symbol but the ironic posing of the old site seems to have taken a back seat.

And before you know it, it’s an actual real honest to gosh political party, that’s either taking itself seriously or continuing its farce.:

such as it were.

The wheels turn round and round.

Something I posted erstwhere: Bill Frist is trying to figure out how to win the Iowa Caucus and the New Hampshire Primary. Tom DeLay has an Ethics Controversy swirving over his head, generally fended off in the background — mostly due to the power he wields. And you throw Senator Nelson of Florida, D, on the spot while you’re at it.

As though to prove my point about Tom DeLay, we find this nutty quote, shades of “Vast Left Wing Conspiracy”.

“One thing that God has brought to us is Terri Schiavo, to help elevate the visibility of what is going on in America,” Mr. DeLay told a conference organized by the Family Research Council, a conservative Christian group. A recording of the event was provided by the advocacy organization Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

Mr. DeLay complained that “the other side” had figured out how “to defeat the conservative movement,” by waging personal attacks, linking with liberal organizations and persuading the national news media to report the story. He charged that “the whole syndicate” was “a huge nationwide concerted effort to destroy everything we believe in.”

It’s a curious charge for perhaps the most powerful member of the undoubtedly most powerful Party to be throwing out… that those mean (and, I might add, powerless) liberals keep sniping away… despite everything. (I mean, Don’t they realize they lost an election?)

I am confused as to what story DeLay is referring to that the instruments of vindictive vilous hate are persuading the national news media to report. Something on the order of David Brooks’s column? I don’t know.

After Louis Helder was apprehended for pipe-bombing mail-boxes across mid-America, the website to his band became public, and the number of downloads to the bands’ song rose from a trickle of one or two every few days to tens of thousands… the number of downloads paving away to money earned meant, likewise, a profit margin that went from $0.00 to an average of maybe $25 per day for a duration of a week… until Louis Helder’s 15 minutes of fame ended. (The band, I’m guessing after a quick decision to disband, made the comment on their now-well commented ‘guest board’ — “We’ve disabled this guestboard. For obvious reasons.”)

(Likewise, every band named “Apathy” had a sudden influx of hits, and a disclaimer “We are not that Apathy”.)

A morbid curiosity to see whatever the two mass murderers at Columbine High School stuck up online lead me, sometime in the summer of 1999, to find a bad Vertigo Comics-inspired 20-something’s writings, someone who unfortunately had gone to the high school several years prior, had nothing to do with any “Trenchcoat Mafia” except for a fondness for wearing trenchcoats, and nicknamed himself “The Trencher”… today, for what it is worth, it’s a right-wing blog…

Do a quick google search for the Minnesota news story of the moment. Not surprisingly, “NativeNazi”‘s, profile on the “nazi.org” forum is gone.

As has the entire forum. All that is left is the google cache. So, I bring in a sort of perverse interest, some of the writings and discussions for “NativeNazi”, aka something else that will be obviously the same individual. The question I have is this: How many Master Races can there be before the words of Almighty Hitler are perverted beyond repair?:

Jul 18th, 2004, 3:55pm
Breeding out the purity in all races is not the way to go. Not the way to go at all. I disagree with you on that, as well as your idea to create a “master race.”

The absurd gets absurder.:

Title: Re: Native American Nationalists?
Post by Todesengel on Apr 19th, 2004, 11:41pm
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Hmn, after a recent discussion with some misinformed people I had to ask you guys, why are people so close minded?

I may young, but I’m willing to help.

Jul 20th, 2004, 4:17pm
Anymore Native American NS’s? Not right now, though I’m thinking of recruiting a few for the party once school starts up again.

They (teachers) don’t openly say that racial purity is wrong, yet when you speak your mind on the subject you get “silenced” real quick by the teachers and likeminded school officials…

AND

Jul 19th, 2004, 11:33am
Apparently a lot of people have never heard of a Native American National Socialist, which surprises me.

Sorry if I didn’t answer some of the questions in the ways you had hoped, but I’m a little tired right now. I’d be happy to field anymore questions you may have for me though.

At any rate, our collection of Nazis of various ethnicities come to this discussion:

Post by spiritinblack on Jul 14th, 2004, 9:00am
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http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm

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Title: Re: About the LNSG
Post by NativeNazi on Jul 14th, 2004, 10:52am
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I have a feeling the only reason the party was picked apart so thoroughly was because of the use “National Socialist” in it’s name, and I also have a strong suspicion that the owner of the site may be Jewish, but I’m not that good with last names so I can’t be 100% sure.

The discussion continues, as our hapless Nazis of various ethnicities decide whether or not this political party is real, and decide that we can’t let the idea be a joke…

It gets boring from there…

Native American Nazis… Maybe “Mein Kampf” was too difficult for the kid. We need a “Mein Kampf for Dummies” edition…

When Joseph Lieberman proclaimed the Delaware Primary as the starting point of his 2004 Democratic Nomination Comeback, he was met with a certain amount of laughter and derision (“JOE-Mentum”, indeed!) But, it should be noted, that he was actually evoking the 1996 Steve Forbes campaign.

Steve Forbes, of course, didn’t get too far after winning Delaware, except a brief moment where he was ahead of Bob Dole and the indefatiguable Pat Buchannan in the polls. But, after watching, to one degree or another, four primary seasons I’ve come to the odd conclusion that whoever the party bosses want in will pretty well be the Party nominees, and there’s nothing anyone out here can do about it. Thus it’s Bill Clinton, Bob Dole, George W Bush (and not John McCain), John Kerry (not Howard Dean). Hillary Clinton is coming up, and I don’t know who the Republican Hierarchy wants yet.

Steve Forbes’s platform was a narrow one: Just implement a Flat Tax, and all our nation’s problems (those that we see and those that nobody sees) will be solved. It was a platform that attracted its following — (cult following? All politicians’ followings are cults.) — amongst a set of the public that believes whole-heartedly in the Wall Street Journal editorial page and considers the scribbling the “Laffler Curve” on a bar-napkin one of the Great Moments in American History.

Bob Dole pushed back Steve Forbes. Pat Buchannan hang around a while. Lamar Alexandar made bitter comments about how he was surging in New Hampshire (where he came in third) before Steve Forbes’s money drowned him in the next round of primaries. And nothing noticable came out of the whole mess.

In the next primary season, Steve Forbes realized that he could not win the nomination on Economic Righteousness alone. Thus, he remade himself into someone who particularly cares about Abortion and various Right-wing social causes. It didn’t really get him too far, and you really can’t just jump onto a cause without any past moment to consider — look back in the back issues of Forbes Magazine and list for me all the editorials hailing School Prayer or Excoriating Homosexual Marriage, and I’m guessing that it will be a pretty short list.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist must be trying to figure out how he can possibly win the Iowa Caucuses and New Hampshire Primary right about now… because, really, you do not want to have to rely on winning Delaware. He’s a politico of little charisma and not much personal charm (And, I might add, used to kill kittens*).

Establishing Pro-Life bonafides is Job #1 for him right now.

*I feel obligated to point out Bill Frist’s kitten-killing past with each and other mention of the man.