Into the Darkness
After Louis Helder was apprehended for pipe-bombing mail-boxes across mid-America, the website to his band became public, and the number of downloads to the bands’ song rose from a trickle of one or two every few days to tens of thousands… the number of downloads paving away to money earned meant, likewise, a profit margin that went from $0.00 to an average of maybe $25 per day for a duration of a week… until Louis Helder’s 15 minutes of fame ended. (The band, I’m guessing after a quick decision to disband, made the comment on their now-well commented ‘guest board’ — “We’ve disabled this guestboard. For obvious reasons.”)
(Likewise, every band named “Apathy” had a sudden influx of hits, and a disclaimer “We are not that Apathy”.)
A morbid curiosity to see whatever the two mass murderers at Columbine High School stuck up online lead me, sometime in the summer of 1999, to find a bad Vertigo Comics-inspired 20-something’s writings, someone who unfortunately had gone to the high school several years prior, had nothing to do with any “Trenchcoat Mafia” except for a fondness for wearing trenchcoats, and nicknamed himself “The Trencher”… today, for what it is worth, it’s a right-wing blog…
Do a quick google search for the Minnesota news story of the moment. Not surprisingly, “NativeNazi”‘s, profile on the “nazi.org” forum is gone.
As has the entire forum. All that is left is the google cache. So, I bring in a sort of perverse interest, some of the writings and discussions for “NativeNazi”, aka something else that will be obviously the same individual. The question I have is this: How many Master Races can there be before the words of Almighty Hitler are perverted beyond repair?:
Jul 18th, 2004, 3:55pm
Breeding out the purity in all races is not the way to go. Not the way to go at all. I disagree with you on that, as well as your idea to create a “master race.”
The absurd gets absurder.:
Title: Re: Native American Nationalists?
Post by Todesengel on Apr 19th, 2004, 11:41pm
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Hmn, after a recent discussion with some misinformed people I had to ask you guys, why are people so close minded?
By the way, I’m being blamed for a threat on the school I attend because someone said they were going to shoot up the school on 4/20, Hitlers birthday, and just because I claim being a National Socialist, guess whom they’ve pinned?
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Post by atem on May 2nd, 2004, 11:12am
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This is a time in which nationalists are demonized. Much as “terrorist” indicates “someone who disagrees with our global empire,” so does “nationalist,” but the complexity of separating that term from “patriot” will confuse the general population, so they use simple words like hate, Hitler, bigot, ant-semite, etc.
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Post by Todesengel on May 26th, 2004, 2:27am
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You encounter a lot of hostility when you claim to be a National Socialist, but because of my size and appearance people don’t give me as much trouble as they would if I looked weak. I already had a fist fight with a communist not to long ago over me being what I am (I also won), but it was worth it. I don’t try to hide what I am from anyone, if they’re going to start something over it then fine, I’m not backing down; Nor am I hiding. I try not to be aggressive in most situations, I’ll use force if I have to, but I’m not about to go out and pick a fight. I’m mostly defensive, I’ll defend myself if someone tries something but other than that I’m a peaceful person.
But the school threat passed and I was cleared as a suspect, I’m glad for that. I don’t much care for jail, I’ve never been there and I don’t plan on it.
Either way, I was wondering if there was a way to become a more active member, besides posting on this board I can’t really think of anything else to do. I could do some recruiting, but a lot of the people I socialize with are against Nazism whole-heartedly, I managed to sway a few opinions in the favor of the movement none the less, and there is also a few of my “friends” who only like Hitler because they think Nazi’s are “cool.” Which I agree with, don’t get me wrong, but they aren’t as serious about it as I am.
Any ideas?
I may young, but I’m willing to help.
Jul 20th, 2004, 4:17pm
Anymore Native American NS’s? Not right now, though I’m thinking of recruiting a few for the party once school starts up again.
About the wannabe’s, I call them “n-iggers,” since technically that’s what they are. Native – Iggers, though I tend not to use the term so much in public for obvious reasons.
Right now I know about two people on the Rez who share my beliefs, but they don’t share them entirely.
The teachers at my school are all white (besides the Ojibwe language teacher) , yet the times I have brought up that Native Women and Black men, or White women and Native men shouldn’t be together to keep their blood pure, I’ve been called a racist. When I bring up the point that our tribe (the Ojibwe) is mixed a lot and is in need of more pure bloods, I get the same old argument which seems to be so common around here. “We need to mix all the races, to combine all the strengths…” ect ect. It gets old real quick when you hear the same argument over and over.
They (teachers) don’t openly say that racial purity is wrong, yet when you speak your mind on the subject you get “silenced” real quick by the teachers and likeminded school officials…
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Jul 19th, 2004, 11:33am
Apparently a lot of people have never heard of a Native American National Socialist, which surprises me.
I think most people on this Reservation would respond well to the racial question if it was disguised.
For example, if I asked your average teenager on this reservation: “Are you proud to be Native?” The answer I would get is, “hell yeah dawg.”
Now for some reason, I would find myself asking “if you’re so proud to be Native, then why do you walk, talk, act, and dress like an African American?”
But I always refrain from doing so.
The only one’s who oppose my views are the teachers at the high school, and a large portion of the student body who think a Nazi is a Klansman, or a White Supremacist thug.
Most of the Natives I know have been poisoned by what they were taught in school. The basic “Nazi = Bad, Jew = Good. Defend Jew at all costs.” You get the idea, the public school system has done more harm then good, and as a result it has left many on this reservation misled and misinformed.
But you are right about us Natives having a lot of pride in our heritage. I own my share of “Native Pride” shirts and sweaters, and I see many more in school, yet they are still outnumbered by your basic Rap culture paraphernalia.
I haven’t given too much thought to the way our land would be divided or how it would work, so thanks for bringing it up.
What ways has the Jewish power affected us in General? Ever since the Jewish post-war propaganda has been taught in our school systems (on reservations), a lot have been brainwashed into thinking purity is wrong, at least that’s my take on it. I can’t help but notice how many pure blooded Natives there are left since…
Sorry if I didn’t answer some of the questions in the ways you had hoped, but I’m a little tired right now. I’d be happy to field anymore questions you may have for me though.
At any rate, our collection of Nazis of various ethnicities come to this discussion:
Post by spiritinblack on Jul 14th, 2004, 9:00am
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http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm
“Libertarian National Socialist Green Party – Politically correct Nazis? These Libertarian Green Nazis are either the strangest conglomeration of diametrically opposed political ideologies of a political party I have ever seen — or one of the most wry political practical jokes found anywhere on the net (I’m not certain which conclusion is correct, but I strongly suspect the latter). This party purports to be comprised of atheist, peaceful, pro-gay, pro-drug legalization, anti-racist, environmentalist Nazis who acknowledge the Holocaust likely occurred (but are neutral as to its justification) and oppose the government sponsored killing of Jews, Christians & gays and the disabled. The LNSGP “rejects Judeo-Christian moral standards, victim mentality political behavior, capital-centric value systems, and authority.” While membership is open to anyone regardless of their race or sexual orientation, individuals who openly profess a belief in either Judaism or Christianity are denied party membership. Articles, platform, FAQ and graphics. Worth a visit — even if only to decide for yourself if this is a joke or if it is serious. In the past — and as an indicator that the LNSGP is probably a practical joke — the LNSGP’s site had sections dedeicated to claims of participation in a public service project named the “Jewish Community Brothership” (to “Communicate the modern interpretations of Nazism and its implications for Jews in today’s multicultural Reich”) and some links to very bizarre “news” articles (example: “Nazi Moon Bases Established in 1942″).”
[I don’t understand this. Why must be the LNSG be considered as a joke? People any thoughts on this? Btw, is there any chance that the LNSG will have a candidate to run for president?]
Title: Re: About the LNSG
Post by gasto on Jul 14th, 2004, 10:33am
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that´s pure BS…people like that should be ignored…
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Title: Re: About the LNSG
Post by NativeNazi on Jul 14th, 2004, 10:52am
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I have a feeling the only reason the party was picked apart so thoroughly was because of the use “National Socialist” in it’s name, and I also have a strong suspicion that the owner of the site may be Jewish, but I’m not that good with last names so I can’t be 100% sure.
The discussion continues, as our hapless Nazis of various ethnicities decide whether or not this political party is real, and decide that we can’t let the idea be a joke…
Native American Nazis… Maybe “Mein Kampf” was too difficult for the kid. We need a “Mein Kampf for Dummies” edition…